Rollback rx

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  1. nicM

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    It just seems to be a "stylish" way to show the time of creation of the snapshots ;) ; you can see this information in the "created" area, behind the date.

    You should take "extra" snapshots every time you install a program, or change settings on your system, and give a "expressive" name to theses... That's something which can be misleading after few days of use : You'll have lots of scheduled snapshots named... "scheduled snapshot" :D :( , not very informative, except the date of creation. Then the need to create your "own" snapshots, with a special name, to prevent problems once you've dozens of snapshots ;) .


    About your previous question :
    I consider it as the ultimate weapon, when you like to "play around" on your computer, installing, uninstalling, reinstalling and changing lots of softwares... For now I use it (partly) to run several different setups on the same computer (I mean I've one with Antivir/Jetico, one with ", " and Online Armor Av+ beta, one with Avast beta/Jetico, and one with AVG/Jetico/Process Guard/RegDefend), I can switch from one to another in the time of a reboot, that's very, very useful :eek: . You can install malware on one snapshot, it's gone when you do a recover, to the same snapshot on it's previous state.

    I was thinking about to partition my HD before, to use two different bootable Windows XP partitions; with Rollback, I gave up this idea, as I don't need it anymore :cool: .

    You can safely experiment and install programs on your computer, with the certainly that they'll be gone even in the worst case, if problems happens - without to talk about the file backup advantage, for an "average" and everyday use, since you can recover every files from one snapshot to another.

    So in one word, yes, a very advisable program ;) .

    Cheers,
    nicM
     
  2. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    HI Guys

    To expand on something NicM said. When I install something to play with I always take TWO snapshots. I do this because the current snapshot I am working in is current as of one I took it, not where I am right now. So the first snapshot preserves the status at this moment, then the 2nd one I use to add whatever I want to add. If I only took one snapshot, I'd be rolling back to the time of the previous snapshot, and not necessarily the latest state of my system. Important point to understand.

    Pete
     
  3. aigle

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    Sorry I did not get this point. I don,t think you need two snapshots at the same time in any case.
     
  4. Peter2150

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    Aigle. Say you make a snapshot of the system at say 8:am and call it one.
    You work on your computer all day, and then at 5 you want to install software so you make a snapshot and call it two. You are now working in two. If the install is a bust which snapshot are you going to restore. I don't think if you are working in two you can restore to two. (Chris am I wrong?) If you restore into snapshot one your system won't be as it was at 5 when you made snapshot two, it will be as it was a 8 am when you made snapshot one.

    Pete

    PS I have never tried in the scenario above restoring to the snapshot I am in. Has anybody tried this?
     
  5. Peter2150

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    Having just written the above I decided to call HDS. Turns out I am probably wrong. They told me it wouldn't hurt for redundancy but isn't necessary.

    Aigle I think you are absolutely right. Will try it later just to satisfy myself.

    Pete
     
  6. Atomas31

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    Hi Pete,

    I don't believe that you are actually working in Two in your exemple... For one, I have tried what you have described and restore what you call in your exemple snapshot 2 and I was back up like it was before the install of the software that screw my system. So, in your exemple you could restore snapshot 2 and you would be back up the way it was at 5 when you actually make the snapshot. So, in clear I think you are wrong...

    The way I see it, a snapshot is like a frozen picture of your system at a certain time. After a snapshot is taken you are back in your current system and any changes made to it after that ain't gonna be in any snapshot unless you take a snapshot from this point...

    Best regards,
    Atomas31
     
  7. nicM

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    Peter, yes indeed you can do such a "restore" inside the same snapshot; that's a sort of reset, I don't know how to call it.

    I mean in the scenario you wrote, you can "reset" snapshot two though using it while doing. You don't have to restore another snapshot, as n1, for instance. Just the consequence from the fact that Rollback does only "work" when you decide to take/restore a snapshot.

    By the way :
    Yes, I did it, when I don't really need to change the computer setup, but just want to cancel some changes made during testing.

    Cheers,
    nicM
     
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  8. aigle

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    NO, its, not like this. Sure U can restore to snapshot two. U don,t need to take an exta snapshot.
    Once u have taken a snapshot, u can restore to it even u are still in the same samesnapshot. It doesn,t matter.
     
  9. Chris12923

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    Yes you can restore the same snapshot you are currently working in. I know a couple others have already answered but since you asked I wanted to answer.

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
  10. Acadia

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    Ok, let's see if I'm understanding this correctly. Let's say that I have been working in a Snapshot for a couple of hours and let's say that I now contract a computer Virus. I can safely restore to this same Snapshot and the Virus is now gone because I never saved or created another Snapshot?

    Acadia
     
  11. nicM

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    Yes ;) , you'll just loose the work you've done since the snapshot was created - but including the virus too :cool: . You simply go back to the state of your system at the exact moment the snapshot was recorded.

    Said differently, as long as you don't take snapshots, nothing is saved (inside a snapshot I mean) upon your current snaphot: You have to take another one to save something, and then you only save things when you want (except when theses scheduled snapshots are automatically generated).

    nicM
     
  12. Acadia

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    Ok, here's one for ya. In my above scenario let's say I restore to that Snapshot to rid myself of that Virus. I also lose a word doc that I had been working on. I go back to retrieve just that word doc which I believe that you can do in Rollback, is that correct. Now, if I go back and retrieve that word doc, is there any danger that the Virus will also spread or jump over to the good Snapshot, or should I just play it safe and start a new word doc?

    Acadia
     
  13. nicM

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    Hmm :doubt: , not sure to understand exactly what you mean, but what I would do in such a case is to take a snapshot of the system with the virus running, rollback to a previous and clean snapshot, and browse from here the "infected" snapshot just to recover that file.

    Then I would scan it with the AV, to check its state o_O (the file will replace the previous one, if it was started before infection). If the file is infected, it can then be cleaned/deleted... So it would be a good idea to make a copy the file before to recover it from the "infected" snapshot, if the file is uncleanable. Then you save the file in its state before the infection.

    Does it make sense?
     
  14. Peter2150

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    Hey guys I didn't mean to start a firestorm.:mad: As I said in my 2nd post I called tech support and they confirmed I was wrong. Makes life easier.

    Glad there are so many avid users.

    Pete
     
  15. Chris12923

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    Sure you didn't :) Seriously I can't believe how big this thread is. I'm just glad the title is Rollback Rx so we can post pretty much anything about Rollback here and not have to worry about being off topic :)

    Me too. Hope there will be more using this great app.

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
  16. Chris12923

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    If you have the check box ticked (by default) to "Always take a snapshot of the current system before restore system" in the advanced options there is no need to take an additional snapshot as Rollback does it for you. But you can also do it the way you described, you will just have a duplicate snapshot. One you took and the one that Rollback took.

    P.S. Sorry for the double post.

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
  17. nicM

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    You're right ;) , the few first times I used it, I had theses duplicate snapshots... I make sure to untick the box since, as I prefer to take snapshots myself (to give it "special" names, otherwise you've bunches of snapshots named "scheduled snapshots" after few days, whose the only difference is their date).

    ps: sorry Peter for the feeling of "firestorm" you had, I didn't intend to make a dup post, it's just that Atomas31's post wasn't here when I started typing mine ;) .

    nicM
     
  18. Ptah

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    Hello everyone, so far so good this program Rx and Rollback! Today windows had a big update should I update my baseline asap or wait a day or two and ensure there are no problems with windows.

    Also is it wise to look into cloning software to take care of diaster recovery (the dreaded HD failure).

    thanks,

    Ptah
     
  19. Acadia

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    HEY PETER! I tried to send you a PM and got an error message stating that you have exceeded your PM storage space! Do some deleting bro!! :D

    Acadia
     
  20. Chris12923

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    Yes it is wise to do so, but at the moment when you image your drive Rollback will uninstall itself and of course you will lose all your snapshots. I suggest you still make your backups/images if you have a program that can do so already. If you do not have a program that can do so and you're able to hold off a few months I think you'll find something that should be worth your wait ;)

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
  21. Ptah

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    Rollback is my only backup system right now. I am looking at HD clone but want to read and compare with other programs before I take that step. As for waiting a few months I do not see problem ;). The only other big install I have to do is when I change out Kav for KIS.

    thanks,
    Ptah
     
  22. ErikAlbert

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    That's right, I couldn't reply either.
     
  23. Chris12923

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    HDClone does not reall compare with other programs of it's type. Although it is free which makes it a viable option if it works for your setup.

    I'm pretty sure you wont regret it.

    Good luck with this!

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
  24. Peter2150

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    Shoot, I didn't realize. Okay PM box is cleaned out.
     
  25. houaus

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    Hi,

    On the recommendation of many users I installed a trial copy of Rollback Rx Pro. A short time after, I noticed that the remote desktop feature was enabled in the system properties panel and it would reenable after every restart. Is there a reason why Rollback enables this feature and is there any way to turn it off w/ out losing functionality? Thanks for your help.

    John
     
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