Rollback Rx

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by xristos86, Feb 6, 2006.

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  1. MerleOne

    MerleOne Registered Member

    Thanks for your replies. Actually I just wish to protect the system, not the data. This is why : for instance, I want to test a new anti-spam software : I create a snapshot, install the anti-spam, then launch Outlook Express and download new messages. When I am satisfied with the test, I chose to to a rollback but I don't want to lose my outlook messages. If Outlook files are residing on a non protected partition, they will not (should not) be affected by the recovery. If I don't do so, I probably will have to manually select the folder where these files are (which also forces me to know where relevant data files are, which is usually tricky).

    .merle1.


     
  2. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

    Hi Merle1

    After today, I would strongly disagree, and suggest it is really worth learning where that data is. Let me explain. I use and update stuff including my Outlook mail thru out the day. I did take a roll back snapshot this morning. Sometime around 11 am outlook stopped doing a send receive. I didn't catch it until late in the day. I could force a send but no receive. This happened on my laptop. I transfered everything to my desktop(I use a directory sync and bring all the relevant files) and lo and behold the same problem on the desktop. I checked absolutely everything and couldn't figure out what was going on.

    So I dropped back into this mornings snapshot and everything was fine. So back in the current time snapshot, which I really didn't want to lose, so my next effort was to use Rollbacks file recover feature and bring all the Outlook settings file from the snapshot where Outlook worked into the current snapshot. That fixed the problem.

    If I hadn't been protecting my data, this fix wouldn't have been possible.
    This is why I suggest not protecting the data is a bad idea.

    Pete
     
  3. MerleOne

    MerleOne Registered Member

    I realize I forgot to say something important : actually I do protect the data, but this time using Acronis True Image. Since data are on a separate partition, images are smaller and incremental images even smaller (20 MB every day or so). I have a schedule backup every 2 days.

    Which also led me to have yet another partition to store data with high volumes such as mp3, mpeg and so on.

    .Merle1.
     
  4. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

    Personally I think that may be doing it the hard way, but if it works for you great.
     
  5. MerleOne

    MerleOne Registered Member

    Hi again,

    I'd be most happy to use a simpler solution, but I have not found how I can make partition images and use Rollback at the same time, and having the partition image reflect the actual state. AFAIK, imaging a Rollback-protected partition only gives as a result the baseline. In case "Update baseline" fails, which is a rather critical operation, there is a strong risk of losing everything. One can generally lose one week or more of system update, but not data like e-mail, hence the different handling.
    But like I said, if someone has a better solution...

    .merle1.
     
  6. RobZee

    RobZee Registered Member

    When using Rollback, each snapshot is current as of that moment. If you have Rollback make time-scheduled snapshots or on occurence of certain events such as reboots, you will accumulate a number of snapshots, each current as to all info and all monitored partitions as of that moment, without regard to the baseline snapshot which may have been taken a day ago or a year ago. If you have a BSOD or system failure, Rollback can automatically take a snapshot as of that moment as well. Thus you should never be "out -of-date".
    If you restore your monitored partitions to an earlier point in time, you just have to retrieve any documents, data files etc. made since that date and incorporate them into the restored partition.
     
  7. Skykatt

    Skykatt Registered Member

    Anybody here uninstalled Rollback Pro. and tried to reinstall it ?
    Well if you ain't you're gonna have probs. Will not activate and will return
    paid for version to DEMO !
     
  8. Antarctica

    Antarctica Registered Member

    What version do you have? The latest one is 7.2.1

    Because I uninstalled it over the week-end and reinstall the latest version without any problems.
     
  9. beetlejuice69

    beetlejuice69 Registered Member

    I`ve never had any problems uninstalling either. I tried it just to see how well it uninstalls and it did just fine, and installed just fine also.
     
  10. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

    SkyKatt. If you have that problem, contact support and they will reset the key. I had that problem 1st time I reinstalled. But it has been fine ever since.

    Pete
     
  11. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

    Hi Merle

    Couple of things. Imaging. I am working in a snapshot that I created this morning. Clearly if I restored it I'd be back to where I was this morning.
    But if I Image the system with Acronis True Image, that image will be current as of right now. Note the image will only contain the snapshot it was taken in.

    Re your data setup. I still think it's over complicated. I don't use Outlook express, but I do use Outlook for Email. It wasn't to difficult to find the location of the data.

    I have found it easy to keep just one partition on my drive, which simplies imaging, but still have been able to do exactly the kind of testing you also do.

    Pete
     
  12. Skykatt

    Skykatt Registered Member

    Same version as I've got... thing is I had to do a couple of uninstalls, the first one or two were OK but then I received a window saying I'd used up all my
    activations.....hmmmm.
     
  13. ErikAlbert

    ErikAlbert Registered Member

    I thought it was a good policy to separate at least your OS from your personal data in order to protect your personal data even better.
    I can be wrong of course, but that's what I learned during my readings on the internet.

    Horizon DataSys created even a freeware, called "Folder Mover" for Rollback Rx Users, but I assume you can use
    this tool independently. I think TweakUI does the same thing.
    http://www.horizondatasys.com/products.html
    Once my new computer is complete, I'm planning to do this and it will be my very first time, because I always worked with only ONE partition ("C:").
    I'm going to use one of these tools, because moving folders requires also registry changes and these tools take care of that too.
    I assume it will be a little more complicated, but that's just a matter of getting used to it.
    I already have done some experiments and I like that partitioning stuff and its advantages.
     
  14. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

    I've read all the stuff on the internet, and yes there maybe some advantages. But the one partition strategy has worked well for me thru several computers over the last 7 years. It is simple. WIth a good backup program, no data loss. I've got two big external drives I used for backup. One I partitioned and one I didn't. I see no advantage to the partitioning, and If I do it over, I wouldn't bother.

    Pete
     
  15. huntnyc

    huntnyc Registered Member

    Am beginning to read my way through this thread. It sounds very interesting to say the least.

    Does anyone know if I could use RoolbackRx with BootIt NG as a partitioning software or would I be courting danger?

    Thanks.

    Gary
     
  16. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

    Hi Gary

    One poster in one of the several Rollback threads said he is actually doing this. But it might be a function of the particuliar system, disk etc. As a rule I wouldn't use two programs that modify the mbr together. You might contact Horizon Datasys and ask them.

    Pete
     
  17. huntnyc

    huntnyc Registered Member

    Thanks Pete. It does raise the general question of using partitioning software in general with the product. That is using a program that goes beyond the Windows XP Disk Management facility. I might have to contact them about this because this program seems to have grabbed my attention now.

    Gary
     
  18. aigle

    aigle Registered Member

    With Rollback Pro, u can have upto 30,000 different C drives.
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2006
  19. Acadia

    Acadia Registered Member

    Yes, aigle, I see that now, and have for well over a month. :cool:

    Acadia
     
  20. aigle

    aigle Registered Member

    Sorry I am 1 month late. LOL. Are u using it?
     
  21. Acadia

    Acadia Registered Member

    Not yet ... if it ain't broke ... ;)

    Acadia
     
  22. huntnyc

    huntnyc Registered Member

    I think I read while searching for other threads about Rollback RX, that someone said they could not reaprtition or modify partitions after installing the program. I gues you would have to uninstall, do your partitioning changes and reinstall the program. Am I correct in this assumption. I would like to hear anyone else regarding any conflicts between Rollback Rx and the use of partitioning software, whatever program it may be. Thanks.

    Gary
     
  23. Skykatt

    Skykatt Registered Member

    Did that and now all I got was 2 activations before it returned
    to DEMO. Seems to me that when you pay for this prog. you never really own
    it. Rip off.
     
  24. aigle

    aigle Registered Member

    Any other user tried to uninstall and reinstall it multiple times( i mean at least more than twice)?
     
  25. Blackcat

    Blackcat Registered Member

    Although, I have not yet tried this with the latest version, the difficulty in immediately activating after several uninstalls has been apparently corrected in v. 7.2.1.

    I could not activate version 7.2 after several uninstalls but an email to Lyle and crew ( support ) had me up and running again.

    So definitely not the rip off you suggest!!!!!!!!!
     
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2006
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