TI 9 and BartPE Plugin for TI 8

Discussion in 'Acronis True Image Product Line' started by huntnyc, Dec 13, 2005.

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  1. MPSAN

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    WOW. I was at homecoming 64, so my friend must have been class of 66 or so! Geeze, I even married the gal I took up there with me and she is still here! But, this is as far OT as anyone can imagine!

    To get back on, however, I will try Reatogo. Also, I wonder if I can create an iso if I use my user account and disable Norton AV? I only want a PE CD to boot, access the hard drives (2 SATA Raid 0 arrays) and run TI9. That should not be too hard.

    Take care
    Dave...remembering the days of the Paxton Inn in Paxton, MA!

     
  2. MPSAN

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    OK, problem was hydravision from ATI for my dual Monitors!

    I got reatogo running ...long boot up however. I notice it can access Internet and my TI9 works but I did not try to mount an image yet! I will have to try a backup as well.

    Thank you for your help. Is there an easy way to update TI9 when the next update comes out? I know I need to burn the cd-rw again, but do I need to do a complete reatogo build again?
     
  3. Cintra

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    I have been experimenting with the Acronis plugin for BartPE today, and find that when using Recover, not only does it not see images made with TI9 (either from XP or using the mustang TI9 plugin), either in the Zone, or on my external firewire drive.

    However, if I use the Acronis plugin to Backup a partition to the external firewire drive Recover DOES 'see' that image ok.

    I would bet my boots that if I wipe out the Zone and use the TI8 plugin to make a new one, it would see images Backed up to the new Zone ok...

    It was my understanding that TI8 should be able to 'see' TI9 images ok. Is that not so?

    Edit: Suddenly realized I had a bunch of TI8 Rescue CDs in a box, so I have just confirmed the above - the TI8 rescue CD does not 'see' TI9 images in the Zone or on my external drive, BUT it does see images made with the TI8 plugin on the external and on my 2nd internal drive...
     
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  4. mustang

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    Hello MSPAN,

    Sorry for the late response. Somehow I missed your last post. There has been so much activity on this board topics move down on the list very fast.

    Good to see see you found the problem. I did see your post on the 911CD Forum. The log you posted looked strange with all the repeated entries. Paraglider must also be using Hydravision so he knew the problem.

    You asked about upgrading the TI9 plugin when a new build comes out. I have made it very easy. Just go to the plugin folder and run RESET-PLUG.cmd. Then run TI9-Get_Files+Lic.cmd again. The plugin will be automatically updated to the newly installed version of TI9. Then just run Reatogo.exe and rebuild and burn the new CD.

    BTW, if you buy a Reatogo premium key, it will unlock the AutoDriver function. Running this will allow you to scan your system for video, sound, network, controller card, USB printer and modem drivers. It will then automatically build and install plugins for these drivers. I'm not sure what it will do with ATI's Hydravision, but it would be interesting to find out.

    Good luck,
    mustang
     
  5. mustang

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    Hello Cintra,

    If you have the proper divers in your BartPE, my TI9 plugin should see images made with either TI8 or TI9. If you made the images using my TI9 plugin, the Recovery function, run from my plugin, should be able to see them if you haven't moved them to a new location.

    There is one limtation to my plugin. It uses the files from the build of TI9 that was on your system when you last ran the TI9-Get_Files+Lic.cmd. What build of TI9 is installed on your system?

    mustang
     
  6. MPSAN

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    Great. I suppose I could get my posting count to 50 to get a key. :D

    I did not see where you mentioned RESET-PLUGIN in the htm file.
    I am OK with what I have. Not sure I will be needing a "PE" but good to see it is available. I sure wish that my ExplorerPlus had a plugin. I can not Locate one.

    I will have to see if reatogo.exe-rebuild-burn works for me. I think that people are saying a new TI9 may be out soon.

    Thank you again,

    Dave

     
  7. huntnyc

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    Mustang,

    Thanks for your TI 9 plugin for BartPE. I am using it now. But, I notice that after restoring animage my laptop automatically restarts at the completion of the restore. Is this the way things are supposed to work and thank you.

    Gary
     
  8. Cintra

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    Hei mustang

    hope you didn't think I was getting at your TI9 plugin.. as I said elsewhere its working perfectly now, and sees ALL of my images, including those created with TI8 plugins or TI8 rescue CDs ;-)

    I am just making whoever's interested in the fact aware that neither the ATI BartPE plugin nor TI8 rescue CDs 'see' images made by TI9 of any description, no matter if they are in the Zone or elsewhere.

    To answer your question, my XP version of TI9 is 2337.

    regards
     
  9. mustang

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    Hello huntnyc,

    I'm glad to hear my plugin is working well for you.

    The automatic reboot at the end of a restore is normal. This is a change in behavior that Acronis introduced somewhere along the line in TI9. Instead on asking if you want to beboot now, it call for an automatic reboot. It bothers me too. What if I wanted to do more work in BartPE? Oh well, we have to live with the program as they give it to us.

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  10. mustang

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    Hello Cintra,

    I'm glad to hear my plugin is working well for you too.

    I can only partially agree with that. The Acronis TI8 plugin and the TI8 Rescue CD should see images made by TI9 if they are of a full disk or a full partition. They will not be able to see images made by TI9 of selected files/folders. This makes sense because selected files/folders backup is a new feature in TI9. When you say images of any description, have you tested this with full partition images made with TI9 build 2337?

    I'm sure I tested this with earlier builds of TI9. Not sure if I tested it with build 2337, but I don't see why it should have changed. Future releases of TI9 may change the archive structure, but up through build 2337 it should be compatible with TI8.

    mustang
     
  11. Cintra

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    I only backup complete disks never files, clones or whatever, and just occasionally a partition for test purposes..
     
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    Thanks for confirmation and again great plugin.

    Gary
     
  13. mustang

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    Hello Cintra,

    That's a good backup strategy. I'll have to do some more testing with the various builds of TI9 to see what happens. I'll get back to you with my results. Maybe tomorrow.

    mustang
     
  14. mustang

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    Hello Cintra,

    Well, I went right to testing a full disk image created with TI9 build 2337 running under Windows and saved to a second internal IDE hard drive. Both the TI8 Rescue CD for build 937 and the Acronis TI8 BartPE plugin were able to successfully restore the image. I don't know why you are having this problem, but this is how it should be.

    mustang
     
  15. Cintra

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    Thanks very much for carrying out the test mustang.. something very strange going on here then ;-)

    As there aren't a lot of people saying, I have the same problem, I don't think I'll waste a lot more time on it. I have already replaced the Acronis BartPE plugin at least once, so I'll leave that and use your's.

    I will check the version of my TI8 Rescue CDs though, and see if I have a 937 build amongst them..

    Edit: Nope, I have builds 826, 763 and an even older one I didn't bother to check, but not a 937.
    Perhaps support can point me at a copy. I'll give them a buzz..
     
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  16. huntnyc

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    I use Mustang's TI 9 plugin and also the Disk Direcotr Suite 10 plugin. Both work fine but the thing I hate the most is the way even in DDS10 plugin we must restart in order for an action to take place. This gets tiresome. I know it is not Mustang's fualt because that is the way things work in TI 9 and I guess DDS10 under BartPE but it is annoying.

    Gary
     
  17. huntnyc

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    Little off topic but why does not Acronis give us the ability to make a boot CD with both ATI and DDS 10 on it?

    Gary
     
  18. Cintra

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    Hei, thought I would let you know of my latest test

    I created an image of my C: partition using XP build 2337 onto itself - its ntfs - and guess what, TI8 rescue CD (and the ATI 8 plugin) have no problem seeing this image!

    So I wonder whether your results were produced when saving to ntfs partitions?

    I also wonder whether its possible to create an Acronis Zone on an ntfs partition.. will have to look into that.
     
  19. mustang

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    Hello Cintra,

    Yes, my images were saved in NTFS partitions as a single file.

    When you create a Secure Zone, it is done by resizing the partition you select to create free space. Then the Secure Zone is created as FAT32 in that free space. If you are storing your images in a FAT32 partition outside of the Secure Zone, try breaking them into under 2 GB chuncks and see what happens.

    mustang
     
  20. Cintra

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    Hei mustang

    Other than the above ntfs test, all my backups have been to FAT32 partitions using split images of 1.4GB for the last few months - since getting a NEC dvd-ram drive (very slow media as yet..).

    I think I'll call it a day now, and continue to use your TI9 plugin when not using XP.

    Thanks for your help btw.
     
  21. Cintra

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    Hei mustang

    One last question which I forgot to ask.. are you using XP Pro for these tests?
     
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    Yes.

    mustang
     
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