Which one should I pick?

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by rx-death, Apr 18, 2003.

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  1. Patrice

    Patrice Registered Member

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    Hey Smokey!

    Personally I think like you, but to be honest, I always thought that there's no one as paranoid as I am... until I met Firefighter! LOL :D

    Regards,

    Patrice
     
  2. Main

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    Firefighter,

    Bitdefender missed a kazaa trojan that was installed when I DL'ed Kazaa into my computer.

    I like Bitdefender but I would'nt recommend that as my resident scanner, no offense.

    I would prefer it in more of a backup role.

    I used AVK with KAV and RAV engines running together, along with webroots spy sweeper and trojan remover 5.02.

    That's all but I do intend on adding a backup scanner (GLAD)
     
  3. edsod

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    I post this with good intentions !

    It seems to me that some of you guys have your PC
    just to run AntiVirus programs. :D
    If it is your hobby,nice !

    I can't always stand them.
    I run them because I have to...(I feel them as a burden)

    As for bitdefender I installed v6.5 which I had on a CD
    and I will keep it as an On Demand scanner.
    I see that it is very thorough at scanning and I like it much
    (perfect interface,ease of use!!!)
    But its on access scanner (this murphy shield )
    slows down things...

    I use (again) as resident scanner (Don't shoot me!) AVG .
    I know about its detecting abilities and how it scores at tests,it just worked three times I needed it in a year.
    I have no strange browsing habits and don't use Kazaa
    and the like.

    I would have bought NOD32 if it went well with jv16 powertools which I love and use much.
    Other than this, is OK from my point of you.
    Norton,McAfee and Kaspersky are too much for me.
    I will check again with a feature version of NOD32 or jv16 or I will just disable AMON when I use jv16.

    Just some thoughts from someone with little experience.

    :)
     
  4. Smokey

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    :D :D :D
     
  5. Patrice

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    Hi edsod!
    What sort of problems did you have with PowerTools and NOD32? Why don't you go to the appropriate forum and talk about this? I'm sure they can help you!

    Best regards!

    Patrice
     
  6. edsod

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    Thanks Patrice,I was informed that it was a known
    issue,which I confirmed doing a search at NOD32 forum
    for jv16.
    Found threads like this and some others
    http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=6615;start=0
    I didn't use the beta,just the usual 25 days trial...
    Not a big problem but...
     
  7. The AMON scanning issue became so overwhelming for me (with a conflict with TrojanHnter and JV16) that I uninstalled NOD32 (Beta 4) and installed it on another, older computer that has PestPatrol... As you can see, I don't really care about that older computer (LOL!)

    On my newer computer, I tried Norton, which let viruses go undetected (Nothing new there, lol..), McAfee (Computer trashed my registry and was IMPOSSIBLE to uninstall), and Panda, which was okay, but I wanted better Archive and unpacking scanning, due to part to my "re-education" on antivirul technologies courtesy of Firefighter.., I write that as a sincere compliment, no kidding... I have settled on AVK Pro.. It runs well on my system, which both KAV and RAV engines on, the only thing I had to do was exclude the file for Trojan Hunter, and I have no conflicts at all. Besides, it doesn't take that long to scan my system with it at the highest settings, and it really digs deep down there. The only thing is they have limited resources for english language... I can live with it...WARNING.. AVK PRO IS BETTER USED WITH NEWER COMPUTERS. IT CAN BE RATHER INTENSE...

    I run GAV as a backup scanner with the older computer, and it seems to do even better than Pest Patrol.. GAV is really nice. If it comes out of beta and gets tested on VB, and other places, than GAV would be a really GOOD, quality AV Trojan program...
     
  8. AMON lives happily with Tauscan and Trojan Remover. Maybe the problem lies with Trojan Hunter. I don't have JV16 so I can't comment about this one.

    The size of Pest Patrol updates is way too big to make it a worthwhile program unless you have cable. It never found anything Trojan Remover missed anyway.

    GAV isn't too bad but its author's constant hype of himself and bad-mouthing of other AV and AT programs has put me off using it even if it stays free for ever.
     
  9. Yes, I have to admit, those little "scuffles" that TDS and GAV seem to keep getting into are becoming rather tasteless. I tried TDS - 3 on an older system I had and I had a couple of WIndows related products, although I have to admit TDS is a VERY powerful program. I may try it again when Version 4 comes out. I run GAV now and evn contributed to the GAV Site, and my initial reaction is that program can find stuff (it has for me!) buried deep inside that others can't, which I REALLY like. However, I don't understand what GAV's problem is. I would like to eventually see it out of beta, and I would like a better proposed email scanner than simply a pop3 scanner. The technology is out there. In fairness, both Michael and Wayne seem devoted to their products, and help is always just an email away.. I would also like to see GAV be eventually ICSA certified and in Virus Bulletin...
    I am a paid subscriber, (I joined this week) so my support is there... , but I could not depend on GAV 100%, with the above shortcomings, so I just purchased AVK Pro...

    Am I going to get shot for this posting?
     
  10. xor

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    Just let me finish my Win32 Virus Heuristic. I am just about this... behavior scanning is a little bit more develop-time expensiver than just some simple import table browsing :D You have to take care of many things such as EPO (Entry Point Obscuring) and many other things.

    Michael
     
  11. solarpowered candle

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    hey straight shooter. the AVK ... do you have to buy that on disk ?
     
  12. bellgamin

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    IMOH the guy's an alpha-male genius in his field. If I have the $$$, I will buy anything he produces. However, if ever I am elected President, I shan't appoint him as Secretary of State.
     
  13. I could have bought it from http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product%5Fcode=301775&csearch=&cmid=&pfp=srch1 for $20., but I wanted the tech support provided from www.boomerangsoftware.com They charge $39, but they have email tech support, plus some other goodies.

    Without much of their stuff in english, I decided the extra $20 would not hurt...

    In both places, they sell it as a CD...

    I got it as a CD..
     
  14. Savage

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    AVG is by far the best AV iv used and not bloated to hell like nortons and mcfee and catches stuff that they miss
     
  15. Tinribs

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    Savage, can you name some of the items Norton and Mcafee missed that AVG picked up?
     
  16. InsaneJester

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    <<savage btw
    and no im sorry i cant i know that is was quite a few though but i dont remember names and this was norton2003
    and also norton corprate
    but none of then catch everything but AVG has done me right
    and like i said its not bloated to hell like nortons and mcafee
    wich can be very helpfull for ppl on older/slower systems
     
  17. Madsen DK

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    And perhaps Norton & Mcafee catches stuff that AVG miss. ;)
    Most likely the case.
    Regards Ole
     
  18. InsaneJester

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    well i have not found that to be the case i used to run norton
    and avg and never did norton catch **** that avg missed but often norton missed things and as far as mcafee no one will ever convince me to use that sill program again lol
     
  19. root

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    Guys/gals, please remember that dissing other programs without a specific ferinstance does no one any good. I have been guilty in the past of some negative publicity, but I am learning it is a better approach to talk about the good points of your chosen programs, perhaps noting that you have tried other products but like xxx better.
    It is becoming painfully clear that many people today can have very strong feelings about their chosen security ware and product bashing can easilly lead to some emotional outbreaks.
    I am only bringing this up because I think as members of a board that deals with security, we are all trying to accomplish the same thing. Different people are going to choose different paths, but all are trying to achieve the same objective which is safe surfing and email use.
    So, please don't anyone take this as criticism. It's just some thoughts from an old fart who's learning his lessons slowly and painfully, but I'm still learning.
    It is hard not to bash Window$ though. :D
     
  20. Madsen DK

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    Hi Root
    Your absolutely right, but when someone actually claims that AVG is better than Nav and Mcafee, i really cant keep shut.
    Ive never tried AVG, and i will probably never do, but i never seen a test where AVG outruns ANY of the major players on the market.
    But AVG is better than using no AV at all.
    Just my 2 cents.
    Regards
    Ole :)
     
  21. InsaneJester

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    im just telling you what iv seen from experience
    i dont care what the tests say im all im saying is iv seen avg catch more and not that it matter now that im runing a much
    faster comp (tank god) but when i was on my old crapy compack norton was far to bloaded
    asfar as windows well i wish i could get my damn unix box to network with me winbox lol
    wich brings up a good question anyone know if there is a TDS3 for unix or linux
    i ask cause im a unix noobie so not sure how meny trojans are out thier that would be able to infect a unix box
    but anywho hey i would atleas try avg before knocking it the reg ver not free i have heard not so good thingss about the free avg
     
  22. Tinribs

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    From what I know the difference between free avg and paid is minimal, I've seen a few custom scan options and thats about it, the detection rate and engine are exactly the same, correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  23. Jooske

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    InsaneJester, there is no TDS-3 version for a *nix system.
    Maybe some other programs will do the main tasks like scanning/protecting and the network tasks, in fact i'm sure they will be out there somewhere.
     
  24. meneer

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    *nix is a totally different beast then win*

    You'll need different tooling. What you refer to is intrusion detection (on your system)

    You can find lots of tool here:
    http://cs-www.ncsl.nist.gov/tools/tools.htm

    The tools like tripwire can be found in the intrusion detection section.

    But: please don't just run such a script, you better not treat nix like win. Such a forum is not like a howto to protect 'nix's...

    Check www.cisecurity.net for more info.

    Good luck!
     
  25. InsaneJester

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    tinribs your probably right i dont have the free ver so not sure


    and meneer thx for the tips :) im not overly concerned
    but it will be used as a srever so should probably try to learn how to keep it as secure as i can :)
    thnx again i will chek out those lnks :)
     
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