AntiVir Incremental VDF-Update Beta

I belive because AntiVir's isn't exactly designed to be incrimental from ground up like avast!. You can partially see that because they still use .zip archives for files... But still it's better than 1MB+ each time.

 

It just does not update, and sends a link for an error to my desktop. I click the link and it opens a blank log. It does update fine if I manually do it, but to use windows scheduler to auto update silently, it is a no go.

 

I am not 100% certain, but I believe that the "free" version of AntiVir was created with no silent update capability. Manual updating has been the method I have always used with this product and is the main reason I have complained about the update capabilities (or lack of I should say) for the almost past 5 to 6 years now. As I stated in the previous entry on this thread, the last attempt at updating was unacceptable. I said that I would let the "BETA" thing speak for itself, well I think it made itself clear yesterday that improvement is still required. I invite Mr. Stefan Kurtzhals to reply to this issue.

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Wildman

 

are you using the beta version or the normal version? I occasionaly get the download error links when it fail to update. I have set it to check every 6 hours.

Try to set it to another time to see if it works or not.

 

Beta version

 

I am doing the VDF format changes for incremental, I am not working on the updater programs so I cannot comment on those. AFAIK they are completely reworked with the new "GUI" I mentioned before.

Plus the incr. VDF beta uses the normal classic update servers - which are on high usage always. When every version of AntiVir switched to incremental VDF updating it will be much better.

 

Does that mean we have yet to see the gull potential of VDF?
Anyway if VDF update could go below 100K i am sure the current server setup would be fine. ( 1Mb+ update compare to >100K makes a factor of 10! )

 

The daily VDF is supposed to be 2-25 KB (maybe 50 KB max), so that's what you will download most of the time.

 

Thanks. I can see why server problem will solve

Looking forward for GUI beta as well.

P.S Could you pass this thread to who ever reponsible for updater.exe? It should be a simple fix for slient update. ( i.e it doesn't switch focus of application )

 

Todays updating was not good either, took > 20 minutes and the download speed was all over the place from 80 to 800 byte(s). Would the individual responsible for the updater program have the courage to come on this site and answer our questions? I thank Stefan for having the courage to do so.

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Wildman

 

The updater code won't change anything, Wildman. It is a server problem.
The actual problem is the amount of connections possible at the same time to the update server. Because the normal VDF users are taking much longer to download, the are blocking download slots. So the problem is to get a download slot and not the speed of the actual download.
As soon everyone switches to incremental VDF updating the download slots will cycle much faster because people are finishing the updates much faster.

 

O.k., I'll have to take your word for it, but why do other WEB sites dealing with virus protection programs (free and for pay) appear to not have these problems?

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Wildman

 

Probably because all other already use incrimental updating only...

 

I actually have problems with updating Kasperspy and Bitdefender here and now, usually when larger updates are out.

 

Once again H+BEDV has demonstrated that it is just not capable of getting it's act together. This product is once again off my machine. This is sad as I really did hope that H+BEDV would get it together. I now must tell all who will listen "use another "free" protection product if at all possible, the hassle of maintaining AntiVir/Classic is just not worth it.

I fully expect to see all the excuses come pouring in also, that's o.k., take them for what they are and then go discover for yourself.

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Wildman

 

Wildman, i just can't understand what's your problem exactly. Whenever i tried AntiVir Incrimental beta it worked great. Update response was always fast and downloading too (1Mbit ADSL). Maybe it's your ISP that is causing troubles

 

Wildman is on dial-up if I recall. That may have something to do with it. Sorry if I got that wrong.

 

You are correct I am on dial-up, but my main problem was that I always had a duce of a time making contact with the server(s), unless I tried at an unrealistic hour of the morning. I won't even mention that the recent update is messing up (oops guess I just mentioned it). Nope this one had always in one way or another been a pain in the backside to maintain and had been that way for almost six years now. What I find interesting is that this has been the only "free" security related product that has been this way. Yes on occasion there has been difficulty with other products, but never to the extent that it has been with AntiVir/Classic. I hope this has now made it clear.

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Wildman

 

Wildman,

I think that you should wait until the final version and than see if you still have some problem...

Be a little patience...

Regards

 

Almost six years is not enough?

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Wildman

 

This program is FREE!

I would agreed with you if I saw that they aren't working to improve this program, but it seems that they are doing something to improve it...

I think that we just have to wait a "little" more to have the incremental updates working well and the new GUI...

Until this, we can't do nothing than just wait, so talking about this every month don't change anything...

 

Let me know when and if this happens, until then I am telling any who will listen "use another "free" product if possible, the hassle to maintain this one is not worth it".

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Wildman

 

i have been haveing problems updateing since the big program update came out. I am getting connection errors or it just exits the update dialogue silently for no reason. With the new version I think it is supposed to exit the update silently. It now longer asks me to quit program. It just closes.

 

Wildman, have you checked your connection for packet loss and errors?
Maybe tweak it a bit with some tweaker (sometimes it helps). Packet loss and errors are quiet common for dialup (we were all there once ).
System Mechanic 5 internet connection tweaker does a quiet good job as far as i can remember. But of course don't expect magic things to happen.
For dialup i'd seriously reconsider using avast!. Fast response from servers and extremely small updates. I pretty much doubt about the "drag" that people mention it when using avast!...
I was on NAV years ago (also dialup). I still remember when i was downloading over 5MB of updates for NAV upon installation

 

Thanks all: I am now back to using AVG. Just to add to the mix, I just update SpyBot, AdAware and AVG, all three took less than 10 minutes to accomplish. On average my down loads run at about 2.9 bytes, I also use Star Downloader for quiet a few things, but not necessary for any of the security related programs. No the only security related program that has ever been a constant problem has been AntiVir. Problem never really was the speed of the down load, I know with dial-up that will never be fast and that I accept. My problem with AntiVir was that I always had a hard time even making contact. This I no longer intend to put up with, the product is just not worth the trouble.

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Wildman