tiny firewall 6.5.126 passes all the leak tests

Discussion in 'other firewalls' started by bogota, Sep 14, 2005.

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  1. tuatara

    tuatara Registered Member

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    Example ?
     
  2. tuatara

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    I don't think you must compare those two
    they are totally different.
    It is just like a ship and a car, they can both transport you
    but they are very different.

    I would not say that you don't need a AntiVirus with Tiny,
    it would certainly protect your pc in many ways, but it
    does not detect a virus as a virus.
    So before you trust an application it is wise to run it thru a virusscan
    i prefer NOD32 and Kaspersky and Sophos.

    And it is always a matter of price-versus-fun

    you can add an extra lock on your front door or you can
    replace the door with a Fort-Knox vault-door.


    I use Tiny Personal Firewall 2005 Pro in combination with NOD32
    and KAV2006 Beta (one for on-demand only) and i use ShadowUser
    and backup my system with Acronis True Image to another disk daily

    This computer is used for test-purposes, since testing software
    is part of my job.

    Never had problems with it. And found thousands of malware ..
     
  3. cinrg

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    >> Example ?
    Ok, we'll provide an example in 1-2 weeks.

    >> it would certainly protect your pc in many ways, but it
    does not detect a virus as a virus.
    But If KIS is (or will) able to protect me in ALL the ways - in which Tiny can - and also give me AV-defence then I choose KIS with no questions.

    So my question is about what Tiny can what KIS can't? Main my points:
    Statefull Firewall +
    Dll injection +
    RegMonitor + (stronger than in Tiny)
    Run browser with cmd + (simple and dde and other way)
    Proactive intrusion detection + (very cool)
    AutoRecovery + (=rollback)
    AntiRootkit + (Tiny?)
    AntiVirus + (strongest I think)
    AntiSpam + (big number of methods)
    AntiSpy subsystems
    ...
     
  4. lawmaker

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    kis‘s regmonitor is stronger than tiny?!
    kis’s process guard is stronger than tiny?!
     
  5. Edwin024

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    I can't really imagine that that is a fact. Tiny is a leader on the firewall front while Kaspersky is on the AV front. But the other things of Kaspersky, besides the AV, are quite mediocre so far.
     
  6. se7engreen

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    I'm not arguing that one is better than the other; I do think the two products in question fill two different niches in the security market. KIS is effective, easy to use security all the way around. TF is not about detection; it's about analysis and prevention for knowledgeable users.
    I'm curious how you came to this conclusion though.
     
  7. mlr1m

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    It is a one time payment.

    I have the pro version and it works great with limited users, this is one of the reasons i like it.

    Michael
     
  8. Siro

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    Good firewall but very hard to configure thats what i had to go through :D
     
  9. Edwin024

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    I find that Tiny has great protection out of the box already. I did not configure that much either.
     
  10. pj320

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    yeah very hard to configure. Messed my system once. Too bad i had to reformat my pc.
     
  11. tuatara

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    True, i remember the old versions, those were difficult, but it was clever
    that the changed that.

    It can't be more simple then it is today.

    ;)
     
  12. mlr1m

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    Although Tiny is getting easier, it is still possible to make your system anable to start.
    There is a fix for this in the Tiny manual. I forget exactly where it is.
    Find this section in the manual, print it out and keep it in a safe place.
    It will save you from having to reformat.

    Michael
     
  13. Paranoid2000

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    The fact that you have to register there before even being able to view the forums makes it a complete no-go for me. When you already have several forum logins to manage, you only create new accounts when absolutely necessary and this is the one reason why I've never bothered looking at Tiny.

    As for comparing KAV/KIS 2006 with Tiny - yes, Kaspersky do have a strong security suite but it is prone to conflict (like BSODs with Process Guard) and is "pre-beta" so it would be fairer to wait until the final version is released.
     
  14. Paranoid2000

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    Another strike against their forum is that the admin address bounces. Guess they don't consider it a priority... :eek:
     
  15. tuatara

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    To be honest, i don't think that the quality of the forum
    is compareable with their products

    With other words, i am not impressed by that forum,
    but i still like their products.
     
  16. Diver

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    To: bogota, and the rest of you that understand Tiny. You are all invited to join Mensa.

    The real problem is locking down the system to the point that some numskull who can't resist the latest free game/babe-in-swimsuit screen saver/celebrity tool bar/ will not mess the system up. That means the security system must be set up to require no user interaction. If you are smart enough to master Tiny, you are smart enough to avoid all of the problems in the first place.

    It is completely amazing how much security you can get with a minimalist setup (AV + Router) with a barely computer literate user if you just explain to them what to do: always click no.
     
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  17. The Seeker

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    I've just downloaded this version of Tiny and was thinking of trying it out.

    I used to use Kerio 2.1.5 but after discovering its inability to block fragmented packets I stopped using (sadly).

    I'm aware that Kerio stemmed from Tiny so would I be right in assuming that this older version of Tiny is susceptible to fragmented packets just as Kerio 2.1.5 is?
     
  18. Kerodo

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    I'm not sure anyone knows for a fact, but I think it's a good bet that it does suffer from the same frag problem. I'd move on to something new if you're really worried about it.
     
  19. The Seeker

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    Yeah I did some Googling and couldn't find a definitive answer.

    I am worried so it's probably best not to install it as you say. I'd be constantly thinking about it and would no doubt uninstall it after a while.

    I notice that ZoneAlarm have updated their firewall products today, I think I'll give the free version a shot.

    Thanks for responding Kerodo :)
     
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