ZAP and ZASS 6.0.591.000 Beta available

LOL trust me, I've managed enough software products... I always send feedback and valued feedback when I was on the other side of the fence.

My point is that with apps fully trusted, set to custom, not auto... I still got popups. That is broken functionality, shouldn't have made it into public beta with that type of bug.

Thing you have to remember is that we... being security enthusiasts, are a minor, minor part of ZL's market share, probably 1-2%. Your average user would rather have a unsecured computer than deal with the level of interaction that I'm experiencing. You design for your lowest common denominator... that ain't us.

I personally have gone through my tweak it to the max phase and now just like apps that I don't have to mess with that keep my computer secure.

 

I have to agree with you on that one.. I think these new additions are just going to spell trouble for ZAP..

 

BTW just got an email back from the devs at ZL. They consider the alerts a very high priority bug.

 

That's a plus then. If they can fix it, great. If they can also let you turn off these new features, then I might consider using it. Perhaps you can already. I didn't look too closely when I tried it..

 

Great to hear you've heard back from them tazdevl! But if so far you are the only one in this (albeit small) group that is having that much of an issue I wouldn't slam the beta like you are. I had those pop-up's for the first couple program runs after install and that was it. The past is past, and although Zone Labs has had issues they do respond (obviously you received a quick reply). I'm not trying to make light of your issues, but you and I aren't the end all be all of beta testers. I am sure you have plenty of experience with all types of software both big and small. I am just a user who enjoys ZAP and has used it since the program was first created. Not just the Pro version. I I would like to give out thoughtful information as it was asked in the thread. Let's list our finds, good, bad and indifferent, ONCE, not repeatedly!

Remember I'm not trying to flame here.

You can turn the A/S and A/V (Not available in Pro version) off, but a known issue is that the scans still run. What else are you interested in turning off?

After 36 hours p2p, my memory has risen noticeably, but not at a rate like it did previously. 39,388K mem usage, 35,140K vm size.

 

I wish we could get to this point. But realistically this will never happen. Programs are made for humans but humans so there will always be errors! The human way!!!

 

In keeping with their tradition of allowing you to turn each feature on and off, including the actual network firewall filtering itself, I would like to see them allow you to turn these new features off as well. The OS protection stuff if desired, as well as the anti-spyware stuff. If each and every feature has an on/off switch, then that would be excellent, making it very configurable.

 

BOClean, NOD32 are two good examples. Only time I interact with the app is if it finds a baddie. It is definitely possible, problem is you need competent people on the product/dev side that can translate requirements and understand the way a user interacts with the app.

 

NOD32 is a great program, I've never used BOClean, but I take your word on that. I really appreciate Eset because they are proving that an underdog (in the U.S. that is) can really give a superior product. Great testing and great attention to what users say. That is definitely why I use them.

I'm not trying to argue that Zone Labs is perfect. Far from it and I've had my share of issues. But you do understand the point I'm trying to make?

 

Yup... I'm just giving you examples of programs that have very little user interaction once set up.

 

i have downloaded the beta version of zonealarm is it safe to use it to give it a try? or is it to unstable very buggy??



i i do agree with a previous post some one wrote i think that the GUI the interface should be a more attractive one a nice interface like mcaffe type butu obviosly dioffrent i am just comparing the graphics it uses.

 

It's quite stable, just very annoying, requiring a lot of user interaction.

As to the gui, it's a firewall... do you really mess around with it enough to change the nice, sinple, straightforward interface that it has? How often do you open the app up after you establish initial settings?

 

wat does high protection does from program control?

is it true wat it says in the antispyware options?? it says that it prevents spyware is it like spywareblaster or like prevx

and wat up with the new program thing there are like 3 new stuff

OS firewall will monitor for suspicious and dangerous behaviors

Triple Action Firewall™ (Network firewall, operating system firewall, program firewall??

wat is zonealarm the only firewall with these features??

and antispyware doesn't update? and the automatic update is enabled and i have tried disabled and it still doesn't update?

and wat does it protect exe this is a new feature


and wat does the new firewall prevent in a better way?? like trojans?? spyware, viruses, worms better e-mail protection??

 

and one thing zonealrm antispyware without any updates has found a spyware called netbus pro 2.0 beta it says it a trojan, keylogger now microsoft antispyware, adaware se, spybot-search & destroy with the latest updates does not find this

here is a link to the spyware http://smartdefense.zonelabs.com/tm...LANG=en&OEM=BZAP&HU100=ZLN32735986453664-1043

 

Chaos 16,
I reported NetBus 2 FP (see earlier in this thread); ZA have acknowledged.

As for your questions a little higher up in the thread, have you thought of reading the help file (last resort, I know ? It answers most of them.

I have reported that updating for Antispyware does not work on my system (I get a message the antispyware update task is not responding).

 

so then wat netbus is part of microsoft?

 

For me, the Netbus alert was triggered by the presence of uninst.exe in C:\Windows. That is Installshield's uninstall exe, used by any app that is installed/uninstalled with InstallShield, and by itself is quite legitimate. However, none of the other files or registry entries associated with Netbus were flagged as present. This suggests that their detection algorithm is insufficient to distinguish between a real Netbus infection and just the presence of the uninst.exe and in this case a FP.

If you look at the details of the scan result it tells you what in particular caused it to flag Netbus. If it shows something other than just the uninst.exe in your case it may not be a FP, but as you said that Spybot reported nothing and as it has Netbus in its database, I think it reasonable to conclude it was a FP also for you.