Help me with Kav and Streams

Yes, or simply the desire to make a better product

 

The check sums Kav sets in the ADS streams are used to check if any changes have been made since the last on demand scan. And it allows the av to not have to scan every single file every scan which speeds the scan up. But useing the ADS streams will cause problems with some applications. My Diskeeper 7.0 won't defrag with ADS streams in use. And there are some other programs it will affect. In principal useing the ADS streams to checksum and speed up the scan is a good idea.Useing the streams doesn't affect my computer at all except for interfering with Diskeeper.

bigc

 

A better product? Nah. KAV 4.5 personal is superior to 5.0 personal. If KAV 4.5 was still the current edition of KAV I would I have purchased it. I will never purchase 5.0 though and wish it had never come into being.

On my XP Pro box, KAV 5.0 with ADS tagging enabled, caused immediate, severe fragmentation and rendered System Restore unusable. How anyone can claim that is an "improvement" over 4.5 escapes me. Plus, 4.5 has better scanning capabilities and does better on most AV tests and allows one to configure it to a much greater extent that any other AV I have ever used and I have used most of them. There is almost no ability to configure 5.0 personal which inhibits its effectiveness. The two versions are as different as day and night and the earlier version is far superior to the current one IMO.

 

KAV 5 runs just fine with Istreams turned off. It is faster than KAV 4.5 by a wide margin. The only KAV 5 glitch I can think of is that it has a shut down delay on W2K systems.

 

Well guys, there seem to be a lot of bugs in KAV 5 but its a good product, at least as good as 4.5. Please give Kaspersky some time..I'm sure they'll find a workaround for all existing bugs.

But its very unlikely iStreams will be part of KAV 5.5 or 6.0 because of the consumer backlash it has recieved.

This seems to be similar to the period when KAV 4.0 was released, the bugs were only truly fixed with v4.5. There probably will be a 5.5, thats when it'll become a nice scanner without bugs.

Russians are hard workers, that is why I trust them that they'll fix the bugs.

Best Regards,
Firecat

 

Don't count on it yet. Two of the main points in the development-criteria of Kaspersky 6.0 is that it needs to be even faster than 5.0, & with less drag on system-resources, so we'll see.

Btw, i have yet to see any trouble with 5.0 i 10 months of use, despite running some of the software that some find that 5.0 messes with (like PerfectDisk & FirstDefense from http://www.raxco.com/).

However when you think about all hardware/software combination's there is possible, there are bound to be some conflict's, but some of the problems that people have are easy to fix, for exampel conflict's with the networkmodule in 5.0.

I had almost forgotten about 4.0, it was so bad (systemresources) that it drove me towards Nod32 for some months until 4.5 come out. 4.0 was bad.

Hogwash, the russians that i know sit around playing the ukulele, singing sad songs & drink vodka all day.

I have couple of questions for you, if it's ok with you.

1. Since you are connected with eScan, do you know if Microworld are working a new more easily configured version?

2. Your name Kaw-shique , does it mean something.

Regards

 

Well OK, maybe I was wrong about the Russians...how did they get such a great database anyway (KAV)

As for your answers, from the times I visited their development center,

1)Yes, they tell me all the time that they are holding the current development of eScan as the next version will come out by mid-2005 which is going to include many features and a better user interface...Actually they want suggestions on the UI, I told that it should be something like BD or PCC...along with a centrally managed interface from where you can control all features of the program (for the internet Security edition)...What do you say?

2)My name means that I am very good at the things I take interest in (Hindi language).

Regards,
Firecat

 

Nah, I'm not good at speaking Hindi language, the only language I'm good at is English!

<sigh, I don't know my national language properly, shame on me!)

 

I'm all for it, i like BitDefender's GUI a lot, so for me this will be an improvement (big one).

In that case, your name seems very fitting young man, you seem to be very good with computers. It's a nice name btw.Thank you for the answers.

Regards

 

Hehe..Thanks!

 

sorry if this has been asked and answered but i just bought kaspersky 5 personal pro im not too sure about the streams, if i install product do i have to turn off streams before first run to prevent them or do the get in on installation?

 

Mele20, intrigued by your statements about KAV 4.5, I've tried it for half a day.
I agree on the config part, it gives a lot more control!
On the other hand, the GUI was, in my opinion, dramatic! settings, options etc. everywhere... (I like clean, simple GUI's )
On my system, it was a lot slower then KAV 5.0.227.

Well, I'm back now on 5.0.227, and happy with it! And as a final comment: I'm very happy KAV 5 came in to being (No hard feelings, though )

 

On install, pro will set some streams with real time scanning. After installation you can disable the streams in the real-time, on demand and right-click settings.

After you have done this, you could remove most of the remaining streams with a tool like adsspy

 

Does KAV 5.0 add streams to partitions other than the partition where it is installed? For example if KAV 5.0 is installed on C:\ will it also add streams to partition D:\ or E:\ .

 

Does this tool remove ads with kav installed?whenever I've tried kav5(5.227 apart where you can disable them before installing)I've had to uninstall kav to remove the streams,even with kav disabled(no matter which flavour 4.5 or 5)most of the sreams couldn't be removed:-try running streams(the app!) with kav installed then run it again after uninstalling kav its surprising how many more ads streams are found/removed

 

From the Kaspersky website: "Important: you need to make sure Kaspersky Anti-Virus is uninstalled prior to running of the utility."

http://www.kaspersky.com/faq?qid=156666512

Acadia

 

does anybody know what iChecker is and does that need to be disabled as well as iStreams

 

LOL --I agree the GUI for 4.5 is pretty bad. I almost went blind as the font on my 19" LCD flat panel at high resolution was so tiny and lots wasted space because of the tiny font. And messy, the GUI. Still, I loved how much I could configure it. I have never seen any other av that could be configured to that degree. As for 5.0 running faster, I found just the opposite on my XP Pro Sp1 box with 1024 RAM at 3GHz. 4.5 was much faster. 5.0 slowed my box to crawl. I later realized that was probably due to the severe, almost instantaneous fragmentation due to IStreams and my having the entire default space for System Restore full of 90 restore points. Lots of files to severely fragment with that IStreams. I had defragged just before installing and within just a few days I had something like 40% fragmentation.

5.0 was the slowest, most awful AV I have tried while 4.5 was the best. But AV is so dependent on one's computer and individual setup. So, if you are happy with 5.0 then that is right for you. I'm glad you tried 4.5 though.

 

iChecker is similar to iStreams, except that its meant for FAT32 partitions...iChecker does not need to be disabled, it works perfectly well.

 

if it is meant for fat32 and im running ntfs so i need to have it enabled?

 

No I do not think so.

 

befor i turn off iChecker can any body else confirm that it isnt needed under an ntfs system?

 

iChecker is used with FAT32 partitions, iStreams with NTFS. Read the info at these links please:

http://www.kaspersky.com/faq?qid=156666512
http://www.kaspersky.com/faq?qid=156636746

 

sorry if my question seems stupid to some of you but again i probably am not as computer literate as most of you.

is the root directory anywhere on the c drive or is it in a specific folder?

if im right it will be anywhere within the c drive

 

thank you Firecat and support mike