Ubuntu upgrade adventures, a rollercoaster with mostly down

Discussion in 'all things UNIX' started by Mrkvonic, Oct 22, 2025 at 7:59 AM.

  1. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    Not as good as it used to be. I've written an article outlining the worrying results of multiple Ubuntu family LTS upgrades, including physical and virtual Ubuntu and Kubuntu systems, versions 20.04 through 24.04, with numerous bugs and issues like broken setup due to screen lock, missing configurations and programs, alarming trend of deteriorating quality and stability, general lack of product-driven development in the Linux world, other observations, and more. Take a look.

    https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-upgrade-adventures.html


    Cheers,
    Mrk
     
  2. fblais

    fblais Registered Member

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    Desolating... :(
     
  3. sdmod

    sdmod Shadow Defender Expert

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    @Mrkvonic
    So true
    Lack of sensible singlular managemntal authority taking product everyday, non technical, consumer usability and ongoing functionality of operating system and dependant softwares into consideraion.
    No centralized develepmental or shared philosophical direction, agreed aims and conceptualization of project by participants, and no policing or project accountability of disparate bedroom, 'triggerhappy', enthusiastic,'pet project', modular, egocentic nerd, developers operating from inpenetrable, cocoons.
    'Hobbyist' development structure.
    Too many cooks spoil the broth
    A recipe for breakdown.
    An operating system in all it's aspects should be the stable heart of our computing daily life. Ease of Installation , usability and predictability for all users should be the main aim when releasing an operating system to the general public
    When people depend on an operating system for important aspects of their daily lives an operating system should be no longer regarded as a breakable. toy
    Just some thoughts.
     
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  4. reasonablePrivacy

    reasonablePrivacy Registered Member

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    In my experience ar least Debian was that stable. Of course I mean unmodified Debian, not heavily and randomly modified Frankendebian.
    Developers can't really predict and mitigate all the ways users will modify their systems. If you are upgrading a modified system you are doing it on your own risk.
    You can use some atomic distros but then user can't modify OS much - I certainly have issue with that. I do modify OS and I take responsibilty for it. I am probably in minority as people don't want to own things nowadays and this is really a matter of who owns modification to OS.
     
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