Logitech's new Solar+ K980 keyboard charges with "any light", ditches USB port

Agree with most of the comments here. That said, I have and still use the MX Master 3. Will likely check out the new one at some point.

 

Same here I have a MX Master 2S and a 3S and they have been great.

 

Forgot about this, I didn't realize this would turn off WIFI/Bluetooth and 4G. I guess I can use this when I'm outside, but I would like it to work just like laptops, because it's not the same as standby mode, the smartphone is still enabled.

It's a headache that develops overtime, not straight way. I worked at a call center for a year with Bluetooth headsets, and after months I noticed that something was wrong. My symptoms disappeared when I stopped working over there. I think it might depend on the amount of radiation, the placement of the access points/devices, and the exposure time.

I'm aware of the fact that most scientists don't believe it's a real thing, but I have reasons to believe that it's not a mental condition. And even if it was, a doctor is not going to solve it for moste of these millions of people who believe to be sensitive to EMF. So what apparantly does solve it, is to disable WIFI/Bluetooth as much as possible, so why not?

Also, I saw a documentary on Dutch TV years ago about one of the inventors of mobile telephony, who is now living somewhere in the woods of Sweden (he worked at Ericsson), because he gets sick from EMF. This is a guy who knows a thing or two about EMF, so it's not some nutcase.

 

There are literally hundreds of studies proving it, for example EMF affects sperm count, slows down growth, etc. 5gappeal is done by hundreds of scientists, not fanatics. Microwave was initially banned in Russia for safety concerns.

Yeah, like people saying, that using a magnetic bracelet for carpal tunnel is placebo effect. So what?! I could not move my hand and fingers and the bracelet helped. I do not care, if it is made up, it works for me.

 

Yes correct, there are also many scientists that do believe that EMF is a risk to health. And some people might be more sensitive to it than others. That doesn't mean that those other people are not affected by it though. And many of the ''scientists'' that say there is no problem, are often sponsored by the big corporations.

LOL, yes exactly. As long if it solves the problem, why not?

 

I haven't seen any issues with my MX Master 3s it been a great Mouse. The MX Master 4 looks good as well!

 

Well, yeah. It is a phone after all. Maybe not used for phone calls much these days, but certainly for texts. I'm just not certain your expectations are realistic.

Laptops are different because they completely shutdown to ensure the battery does not fully discharge, then be dead when you get to your destination and need a portable computer.

But do note, whether a laptop with its charger/power supply still connected, or a PC, USB ports will still be "alive". This is so you can, for example, press a wireless keyboard key or mouse button and wake the computer out of standby. Laptops keep at least one port alive for connected devices. In some cases, so you can charge your cell phone while the laptop is in standby.

I will give you this. I really wish it was simple to power off a cell phone. I get where they want to ensure they are not accidentally powered off, but it should not take so many steps. On my Samsung, I keep forgetting, for example, which button I have to press and hold - and even after I figure that, there are at least two more steps to do before it actually shuts down.

Pretty sure most scientists think it is real - just not at the levels some claim.

I've been a radio technician since 1972. I would not live under high-tension power lines, next to a microwave tower or airport or weather RADAR. One of the driving factors LCD TVs took over our living rooms was because of the harmful emissions from CRT TVs. I sure remember sitting 4 - 5 feet on the floor in front of the CRT TV - not realizing how my "junk" was being radiated.

Well sure. I've worked in similar environments too. But there are many other factors that can easily factor in. Stress of the job is a big one - especially if dealing with [often hostile) customers. So are all the fluorescent lights, staring at a monitor for hours, the constant (and loud) droning din of everyone and all the activity in the room. Even having a headset clamped on heads for hours can be a factor.

It 100% absolutely "IS" the placebo effect. It has to be a copper bracelet!

 

its not a vertical mouse, and not available for left handers.
vertical mice are to prefer, this one not. its new features a recurrently limited to adobe software, i have doubt that regular users would use the sdk for their needs.

 

My sister had 2 operations for a carpal tunnel and she still suffers, I bought $10 bracelet and I am good, really good, after years of suffering, since I spend hours at the PC daily.

 

I'm right handed and for a long time, suffered from RSI pain in my wrist. The doctor said I would soon need surgery if I didn't change. So I moved my mouse to my left side. It took just day or two to get used to it and my productively actually increased as I could maneuver the mouse with my left while using the number keypad with my right. That was 20+ years ago - no surgery needed. Today, using a mouse on the right feels really awkward.

This brings up a point with those MX Master mice. I played with a couple and really like the construction feel and how they track. However, I cannot stand contoured mice - those shaped specifically for the right hand. I much prefer universal or ambidextrous mice. But they don't have one in the MX Master line. And for the record, there are a few contoured for the left hand but I don't like them either. Oh well.

 

Thank you for the link @stapp Shame about the lack of higher polling rates, but it is what it is. I am not in a rush to go out and purchase, but will keep this in mind down the road before pulling the trigger on one.

 

I'd run out and buy one if I didn't just get 2 of the 3s models back in February. The only problem I see for myself is the new USB-C receiver. I only have one of those ports and it's for my external drive. I guess I'd have to use it Bluetooth so ultimately a downgrade as far as that is concerned. I have no complaints about the polling rates, I don't game with them. I've never had any lag or problems with them. For every day use they are the best mice I have had but I think they are way overcharging for these things.

 

I hear you. I especially agree with you on them being overpriced. Maybe I will grab one if I see a sale at some point., but I do not expect to see that happening any time soon.

 

Almost never. I watched the 3s for months and it never went on sale. Even Black Friday they are usually full price. Sometimes overstock of the previous model will be on sale. You might find a 3s for $10 or $20 off in the near future.

 

I hear ya lol. I guess I will have to pony up the cash at some point to upgrade mine.

 

I liked the Logitech mouse back in the wired, 2-button, clicky days, but never liked their contoured mice. I switched to the ms contoured mouse back in the day, before I went with a vertical mouse to alleviate wrist pain, then a rollerball, and finally a roller bar, which I've used since, probably 15 years now. Probably wouldn't work well for gaming, but ergo wise it's been great, and I can click with either thumb, left or right. I never did get into wireless input devices, mostly because the wires never bothered me.

As for Logitech, I still use a webcam and headset from 2020 and they work fine, though the headset gets a little uncomfortable. Never installed their software, though, as it seemed unnecessary.

I'll counter that with Cambridge Soundworks 4.1, circa 2000. 25 years and they still sound awesome whether streaming, watching DVDs, or from my CD player (with a Schitt DAC), and the 4 little speakers don't take up a ton of desk space (though I kick the subwoofer once in a while ).

 

As for EM, I do know it's all around us, but I try to minimize close exposure and wireless devices. Never had a wireless phone (still have a landline attached to the wall!), try to use my phone as a phone as little as possible, no Bluetooth devices (haven't needed one yet), etc. I figure yes, we're surrounded by waves of all kinds, but doesn't hurt to avoid what I can.

And back on topic, it would be cool if the light charging tech works from any light source, as that will only improve. But it's probably like the early days of rechargable batteries where the initial models weren't that great in hindsight, but look where they are now.

Added: then again, not having a USB port for charging is disappointing and I wonder how long it'll last. It's like those outdoor solar LED lights that just get weaker and weaker until they stop working.

 

Agree .

 

I don't see why smartphones, which are basically mini computers, can't be made the same? It would even save battery life? And it would limit constant radiation for people that are worried about this. Of course, in standby mode you wouldn't be able to receive any phonecalls, but I'm cool with this.

I don't believe I have ever had problems with CRT TVs. I just don't trust WIFI/Bluetooth/4G/5G. And when you think about it, if it was really a mental condition, then shouldn't I also get headaches in McDonald's or even at home (WIFI from neighbours), since I'm so worried?

I didn't have the problem when I used wired headsets, with the exact same company and work. I could also feel the heat that was generated by the wireless headset, so everytime my call was finished, I took it off, because I started getting headaches. I think over the years I have become more sensitive, I also try to avoid big electronics stores, similar to Best Buy.

 

I think I vaguely remember them, I see they were bought by Creative Labs back in the days. These specialized companies can indeed produce pretty good stuff.

~ Political Analogy Removed ~

 

Totally agree with you, why make things even worse. Yes, I know that I get WIFI radiation from my neighbours, but why add even more of this stuff. I just love those Powerline adapters, no WIFI needed! But I have to admit, LiFi also sounds interesting, see link.

https://www.signify.com/global/innovation/trulifi/what-is-trulifi

 

Because again, they are phones - as in, first and foremost, "communications" devices. Their primary function is not for surfing the Internet or creating Word documents. Point being, lots of things are essentially mini-computers but they serve different functions, so they should not be expected to function the same way.

Then as I noted in my reply to you in post #25, use Airplane mode. It does exactly what you are asking for. It is a quick and simple way to turn off and disable all RF communications, including cellular voice and data, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth.

For the record, I use Airplane mode quite a lot. I use it almost all the time with my tablets whenever I want to pass the time playing a game. And I put my phone in Airplane mode whenever I visit my doctor's office. In this way, while waiting to be called, I can still play my games without being interrupted by ads that would otherwise pester me if still connected.

For Android devices, it is one swipe to the center from the upper right corner, then a quick tap on the Airplane icon and done. No more RF emissions from the device - just like you want.

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