Shadow Defender successor

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Mr.X, Apr 1, 2025.

  1. Peter 123

    Peter 123 Registered Member

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    Restoring an image is (for me) no convincing alternative to a program like Shadow Defender (too cumbersome and - first of all - by far too slow on my computer). With Deep Freeze I have no experience.

    I agree with Gaddster's (and some other posters') point of view:
    With "truly replacing" including also that
    ;)
     
  2. Quassar

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    LOL so much time spand on wilders security and you still didnt learn nothng...

    Sandboxie its diferent software than Shadow Defender and compare its stupid because its diferent soft for diferent tasks.

    Using SD dont prevent your from many malware and other things in real time...
    Bc all changes will be backward but after restart system

    Meanwhile Sandboxie can isolate softwares and system right here right now in real time.

    Scenario:
    Somehow hackers bypassed your all security and only SD its able to prevent it..
    Howevery hacker was able already download your important files from your disk
    Uppon restart system his hack will be wipped howerver he will no need steal your files again in next session bc already stolen it.

    When some one bypass browser in sandboxie he will able only deal with stay inside insolated container and nothing more.

    There is a lot other situation of infection where SD will complete not help you and Sandboxe will does well.
    Its complete diferent software... with diferent role of security.

    Im using both of them and also VMware and Quemu.

    About your great simple usage...
    Well if i wanna upgrade vivaldi you need turn restard system for disable SD update Vivaldi and again restart for turn ON Shadow mode.

    In sandboxie i just run vivaldi with out sandboxie mode update and run software again in sandboxie and i dont need kill/stop system with all whole things running in background for make these procedure.
     
  3. digmor crusher

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    I know the difference between Sandboxie and Shadow Defender, I've use both for years in the past. I'm just saying that Sandboxie seems a lot more complicated now then when I used it a few years ago.
     
  4. TerryWood

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    Hi @ Wilders

    If Sandboxie were that much of a success its several previous owners would not have retired it. I criticise NOT Sandboxie, it is undoubtedly a superb product. However it is for aficionados only. The learning curve is significant. It quite simply is NOT for widows and orphans.

    My comments may upset some but the facts speak for themselves. The fact that Shadow Defender is dying and a much simpler product to use (for some the concept may be difficult to grasp) than Sandboxie shows that users want plain vanilla and don't want to indulge in anything that involves learning curves or opaque concepts in the busy and uncertain world they live in.

    The aficionados/techies come to Wilders to indulge themselves, unfortunately it is also where software dies or becomes obsolete.

    Terry
     
  5. Mr.X

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    But, would you like to have a SD successor or not?
     
  6. Acadia

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    If a Shadow Defender “like” product would appear that is as simple and reliable as the SD that I used many years ago, I would probably purchase it, as long as it did not interfere with any of my imaging programs pre-boots, and had “real” tech support and regular updating if needed.

    Acadia
     
  7. Mr.X

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    I think this sort of software doesn't need regular or constant maintenance, as we've seen in SD which has had spaced updates.
     
  8. Acadia

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    Heh, that was "tongue-in-cheek". What I was really saying was, it would be nice to have a program where the developer did not disappear from time to time. Even today, last I bothered to check, no one knows the real status of SD.
    Acadia
     
  9. Mr.X

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    Agreed and seeing @DavidXanatos nice and longstanding job to keep Sandboxie alive and well, he's a good candidate to create this SD successor.
     
  10. Mr.X

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    Also, I think Deep Freeze users might be interested in this SD successor, provided that it has all the current SD features and functionality.
     
  11. n8chavez

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    And yet, clearly it does because as was stated Shadow Defender is dead. Also, can we all agree our opinions, as well meaning as they are, are irrelevant? We are not making the software. However @DavidXanatos choses to do this, if he indeed does choose to do this, is up to him. We have no say in the matter, nor should we.
     
  12. Peter 123

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    Perhaps we (= the people interested in a successor of SD) could motivate David by a sort of crowdfunding. ;) Personally, in principle I would be interested in participating, but of course it would depend on the financial necessities respectively expectations defined by David (if he could imagine such a project at all).

    But at the same time I also have to speak in favor of Shadow Defender:
    Oh no, not for me. :p Of course the "death" of a software can be interpreted in different ways (e.g. no further development, no response by the developer etc.). But for me Shadow Defender is - and will stay - alive as long as it does its job without problems and as long as there are no reports about any gaps in security.
     
  13. Mr.X

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    I also strongly believe SD development is halted, dead.
    My needs for it are gone? No.
     
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