Hasleo Backup Suite

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  1. Osaban

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    I have a question about Hasleo: I let it create the first backup, It did it with no problems, but it took 3 hours! Is it normal? Macrium creates a full backup in 12 minutes for the same volume (that is about 400 GB OS + data)...
     
  2. Rainwalker

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    I had the same problem. Three hours!!?. 445 GB for total backup.
     
  3. Osaban

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    Time is a relative parameter, some people say I set my system to backup when I go to sleep. Fine, but 3 hours for Hasleo and 12 minutes for Macrium? I have a very fast setup in terms of hardware, I’m asking again, is it normal? Rainwalker has the same experience, my incremental updates are less than 1 minute with Macrium, Hasleo is too slow IMO unless I’m doing something wrong.
     
  4. TheRollbackFrog

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    Your experience is not normal. My experience shows backup speeds to be excellent, especially using their most recent data compression method (now same as Macrium vX).

    If you're using an older version, I would update to the newer v5.0.2.2 and try once more. If the slowness exists, I would report it to their FORUM. Their Devs will ask FOR YOUR LOGs TO HELP THEM TROUBLESHOOT.
     
  5. Antarctica

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    Just did a full backup with the latest version, took me about 4 and a half minutes to complete.
     
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  6. EASTER

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    So far so good on this end with v5.0.2.2
    https://www.easyuefi.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=846&page=16
     
  7. Osaban

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    Thank you for your reply. I have Macrium X which works very well. I thought the advice of many members to have a second backup solution is sound, but honestly 3 hours and 12 minutes does not seem right. I've used the latest version 5.0.2.2 and will try again. I will report the results. My concern is a formality as even with such long backup time, Hasleo would be an improbable emergency given the fact that Reflect has never failed in many years.
     
  8. Osaban

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    I am pleased to report good news about my original post about Hasleo being to slow to backup. I think the problem was caused by my USB C hub connected to a thunderbolt port of my computer.

    I did a new test connecting my USB SSD directly to one of my thunderbolt ports, and the results are amazing to say the least for both Reflect and Hasleo:
    Original volume to backup: 420 GB (full backup to recover Windows and data)

    M.Reflect time 9:26 minutes backedup volume size 283 GB
    Hasleo ” 9:40 ” ” ” ” 265 GB

    As one can see, the results are almost the same, and incredibly fast. This has taught me that connections are very important as far as speed is concerned.

    I guess that incremental backups using Macrium daily would probably be about 15 to 20 seconds. I like speed, as it allows imaging programs to be used as time machines, no need to have Shadow Defender or Deep Freeze for personal machines.
     
  9. AlphaOne

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    The 18 GB smaller Hasleo image I would characterize as significant and noteworthy.

    I've also had similar great experience with Hasleo v5 (and v4).
     
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    Rapid Times are also experienced on this end as well. Hasleo Backup Suite has really upped their progress!
     
  11. Selukwe

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    As a long time user of Macrium Reflect (since its v5, and until 8.1), I discovered the Hasleo Backup Suite Free and I am just thrilled about it. Lightweight app, easy and quick to install, responds well and is packed with features not falling behind to Macrium Reflect X. Just awesome. Everything works as it should, no problems whatsover, at least on my system (Win 11 Pro x64, 24H2, system drive on M.2 NVMe Samsung 990 Pro SSD disk, Intel Core i9, 64 GB RAM). Smooth backups, smooth restores, much easier to handle than MR. This looks like a truly successful project. I can only recommend it to those who have not discovered it yet. :)
     
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  12. Dude Guyman

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    I am really liking it too, especially since Macrium went the greedy subscription 'rent-an-app' route. So far Hasleo has worked perfectly. My only complaint would be that it doesn't really seem to have "proper" Linux EXT4 file system support? It seems to do a full bit for bit backup so my ~9 GB used on 100 GB partition Debian install yeilds a ~4.5 GB image file where Macrium results in a ~2.4 GB file. I'm guessing a delta restore would not work either and it would re-write the entire partition rather than just the changed bits.

    That said, it makes and restores an image and it boots and works fine, so...
     
  13. TheRollbackFrog

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    I use it as well in dealing with my dual-BOOT Ubuntu System and don't really mind the minor inefficiency associated with Linux installations. Their Devs will enter the world of real EXT<n> support in due time... I'm willing to give them that time :isay:
     
  14. Izettso

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    I've been searching for an alternative to Macrium Reflect. I have no problem with it other than its subscription-based license and a zero or low cost alternative is what I'm after. I've tried Hasleo Backup Suite and I'm very satisfied with it. One lingering question in my mind is how does the company make a profit out of it? Are they going to start charging money for it in the future? Does their other software cover the cost of developing Hasleo?
     
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    Same here. As long as it can make a useable image that's not too horribly large, I'm good! Most backup software like this gets a little funny with Linux, and some won't work at all because they can't even recognize the format as data. They just see it as unformatted space. Acronis True Image did that even back when it was still a Linux based program! It would take a 100 GB partition with only 9 GB of data on it, and make ~50 GB image file. I mean how does a Linux live CD not recognize Linux file systems? o_O
     
  16. n8chavez

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    For now, yes, other Hasleo titles cover the cost of HSB. But it will not always be free, nor is it fair to the developers that it always remain free. They have promised it to only be a reasonable fee, and no subscription model.
     
  17. Izettso

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    It's a good marketing strategy. With good software you get many users and when the time comes to start charging for it a large proportion of satisfied users will remain loyal to the program and start paying for it.
     
  18. TheRollbackFrog

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    A quick perusal of their site shows (6) paid products. Most are $15 for a perpetual license per System, (1) is $30 and a tricky one (BitLocker File Recovery) is $150.

    If it became a PAID product today at $15 (or even $30) for a perpetual license... knowing what we know now as active users, how many of the existing users in this Forum topic would NOT BE WILLING to pay those fees? And remember... this is an imaging as well as a cloning tool. Just tryin' to get a feel...
     
  19. EASTER

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    Another best thing i admire about Hasleo Backup Suite.

    In my opinion, and only MY opinion, NO USELESS WASTE that Macrium image guardian stuffed into their backup program, because let's face it,if you are serious about Imaging you are also serious in how you also protect those images without some proprietary resource/ extra service hog pretending to be an AV too.
     
  20. n8chavez

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    I disagree. I really like Image Guardian, or Terabyte's IFW's version ProtectIt. Neither one is pretending to be anything related to an AV. They are there to prevent your image files from being altered/erased, which in my opinion is VERY important.
     
  21. cruelsister

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    Image Guardian (which is specific in its prevention of manipulation of the Macrium backup files) is indeed very nice,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAzXnaKbRB4

    But all in all, I still greatly prefer Hasleo.
     
  22. n8chavez

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    It is very nice and, as I said, I consider something like this to be essential. Hasleo cannot offer something like this right now because HBS is free and they don't have the resources for a signed driver. I've brought this up to them a few times. Once it's no longer freeware, and they have the resources, I was told they'll add something like Image Guardian.
     
  23. cruelsister

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    On this I have to disagree. Personal experience has shown me that either Drive failure or file corruption is more highly probable than ransomware encryption. God created removable storage to protect against the former, which would also obviate the need to protect against the latter.
     
  24. n8chavez

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    Not really. Having images in both places would be preferable. But only having them stored externally is not ideal, especially if you test software and use am imaging program to "rollback" changes several times a day. For that, locally stored images are vital.
     
  25. xxJackxx

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    Absolutely. While most people will take sometimes excessive measures to load up on security software, most people do nothing to plan for a drive failure. "Can you get my data back?" NO!
     
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