Microsoft ending support for Windows 10 could send 240 mln PCs to landfills - report

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  1. ronjor

    ronjor Global Moderator

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    By Akash Sriram December 21, 2023
     
  2. roger_m

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    It's a real shame that the article makes no mention of Microsoft's workaround, which lets you install it on unsupported hardware. Windows 11 will run well, on pretty much any computer with a 64 CPU that Windows 10 runs well on. But a lot of people are unaware of this.
     
  3. TairikuOkami

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    It is intentional, they want people to buy a new hardware, but they are also like, you do not have. Just a little loophole for legal purposes. When people search for it they get mixed results like:
    Yes, that is an old article, but people are not exactly looking at dates. So in the end it looks like it is not worth the trouble, not even for manufacturers, who would have to provide the expensive tech support.
     
  4. Brummelchen

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    just another gonzo article. the article does not mention, that computers not being win11 compatible are 10 years or older (in 2025) if they do not match cpu requirements. resisting on old hardware means resisting on old software, old software means vulnerable, in many ways.
     
  5. xxJackxx

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    ...and of course there is the Linux option, but most people won't go there.
     
  6. Triple Helix

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    What's wrong with sticking to Windows 10? In the past many stayed with Win XP and Win 7 after end of life. I will continue to stay with Windows 10 for a few years after end of life.
     
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    For personal use, nothing. If you need to be compliant with some security or privacy standards (HIPAA for one) then you don't have much choice. Or if you have cyber security insurance. Claims would be rejected. Sorry, but the question was asked. :isay:
     
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    Yes let me clarify for personal use in my case!
     
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    In my experience larger enterprises lease computers instead of owning them. They start replacing with new model, when warranty or OEM driver&firmware updates for old model end. It general it happens much sooner than end of OS support.
     
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    Sometimes larger is better. Sometimes worse. I used to work for an international company with over 2,500 employees and they used Windows 95 until 2003.
     
  11. T-RHex

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    I did the same with Win7. In fact, I only upgraded to Win10 early this year, because of online banking. According to their terms of service, if there's any breach of your account, they can deny compensation if you aren't using currently supported software (including o/s). Otherwise, I'd still be happy with Win7. (And, incidentally, am running Win10 on a 11.5 year-old laptop, just fine. And I won't be moving to Win11!)
     
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    Google enables OS upgrades for older PCs post-Windows 10 support cutoff
     
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    Agree. I have two machine with 11, but one with 10: I don't see why I had to change or eliminate a pc every time that Microsoft decides to discontinue a Windows version. I also continued to use Seven, with a multi layered defense, and I had any problems.
     
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    If the current speculation is correct it may get worse with Windows 12 if 16 GB of RAM turns out to be a minimum requirement.
    Windows 12 may force a major change for new PCs (yahoo.com)
     
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    I'm gonna try to re-purpose at least some of my components when I upgrade next. It's OK for now since my hardware is compatible with 11 (and any 12 for that matter). I guess Mike is banking on the fact that the more elderly (7th gen and lower) PCs are ready to be tossed en masse anyway. What is the general rule? three year lifespan for laptops and five years for desktops? Yeah right.

    Money doesn't grow on trees, Mr. Trillion-Dollar Corporation.
     
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    Exactly. My desktop turns 13 this year and the laptop 4. No budget to replace either.
     
  17. Rasheed187

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    In general I also use PC's for at least 8+ years. My current desktop is 10 years and my laptop is 3 years. I think I will replace them both in about 2 years. The desktop runs just fine, but you never know if the SSD might die. And I want a more premium quality laptop with a bigger screen.
     
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  18. Brummelchen

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    17 inch is maximum for now. 19 inch died, too big for a portable. default is most common 15 inch with WQHD. a decent acer nitro is about 2500 euro currently
     
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    I'm guessing you're talking about laptops? I personally feel like my 14 inch is a little bit too small, so I'm thinking about buying a 15 or 16 inch, which also has a numeric keypad, handy when you're trading stocks. I also want to have a fingerprint reader because of the upcoming passkeys, which will be a replacement for passwords. I will probably buy a Lenovo or HP laptop.
     
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    Your PC can still run Linux or Chrome OS Flex! They've plenty of life left and people have options after EOL in 2025.
     
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    So Google will make Chrome OS Flex available to businesses only? That's *** up.
     
  22. BoerenkoolMetWorst

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    In addition to Linux and ChromeOS Flex, you can also continue to use Windows 10 with ESU. Microsoft also provides 3 year of ESU updates for Windows 10. In contrast to Windows 7 ESU, ESU is now also available to consumers.

    On their main page, you have to enter your business details in the form on the bottom of the page. However, there is a link for home users to this page:https://support.google.com/chromeosflex/answer/11552529
    So it seems you can use it just fine as a home user.
     
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