Bork Tuesday, Any Problems Yet?

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by Daveski17, Nov 12, 2014.

  1. pegas

    pegas Registered Member

    That's right! This is the only viable solution for ordinary users.
     
  2. Tarnak

    Tarnak Registered Member

    In my Windows 10 Pro laptop I have Bitlocker turned off by choice.

    I checked my Windows Recovery Environment, and it is enabled:

    Code:
    
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19045.3803]
    (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    
    C:\windows\system32>reagentc /info
    Windows Recovery Environment (Windows RE) and system reset configuration
    Information:
    
        Windows RE status:         Enabled
        Windows RE location:       \\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition4\Recovery\WindowsRE
        Boot Configuration Data (BCD) identifier: 151984e2-30a5-11ec-9e46-0c37960a807f
        Recovery image location:
        Recovery image index:      0
        Custom image location:
        Custom image index:        0
    
    REAGENTC.EXE: Operation Successful.
    
    
    C:\windows\system32>
    
    
    Does this mean that if I allow this KB5034441 update, then I should have no problem?
     
  3. itman

    itman Registered Member

    It depends if there is enough available space in the recovery partition to apply the update;
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-10-21H2#3231msgdesc

    In my Win 10 22H2 build, my approx. 500MB recovery partition was 96% used.
     
  4. plat

    plat Registered Member

    Yeah interesting. Here, the security update apparently installed into a 567 MB partition, not the 750+ recommended everywhere. On my 11 drive the partition was re-sized to 750 MB automatically.. So, this seems to be all over the place.
     
  5. Krusty

    Krusty Registered Member

    Without checking for updates manually, I haven't got the ugly Windows Update error staring me in the face, x2 machines. That's fine by me for now.

    Win10 won't be supported much longer, anyway...
     
  6. Rules

    Rules Registered Member

  7. Krusty

    Krusty Registered Member

    Yes @Rules , Win10 22H2 Home is doomed.
     
  8. Rules

    Rules Registered Member

    :thumb:Totally agree for the 22H2 editions, already in EOL mode.
     
  9. XIII

    XIII Registered Member

    Can anyone confirm/deny that moving a Windows C: (boot) partition on an MBR is safe?

    (I might try that this weekend)
     
  10. plat

    plat Registered Member

    I've been kind of contemplating going to Windows 11 full time. I was going to stick to 10 until it's end-of-life (whenever that will be now) but at this point, I'm wondering when Windows 12 will arrive. Maybe I'll use that event to move my 10 drive to 11 stable channel and Windows 12 Insiders to my 11 Insiders one. Or is Microsoft intending to keep it Windows 11 forever with continuous updates or? You hear some rumors, right?
     
  11. ProTruckDriver

    ProTruckDriver Registered Member

    I thought that was the plan M$ told us about Windows 10. Windows 10 was going to be the last upgrade during the big push to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10. We all see how that went.:rolleyes:
     
  12. xxJackxx

    xxJackxx Registered Member

    The people that told us that don't work there anymore. Might be part of why. :isay:
     
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  13. Rasheed187

    Rasheed187 Registered Member

    Don't do it, Windows 10 is way better from what I understood. I recently had to reset my PC to a clean install of Win 10, and I forgot how bad it is out of the box. The first thing I always have to do is install Classic Shell, 7+ Taskbar Tweaker and not to forget Win Update Stop. But most of these tools don't even work on Win 11. I'm not planning to ever install updates on this Win 10 1909 machine. I really don't get you guys obsession with updates. :p
     
  14. plat

    plat Registered Member

    lol! OK, I'll stick to Windows 10 for now. There's no hurry anyway. :)
     
  15. XIII

    XIII Registered Member

    Made a backup with Macrium Reflect on an old external drive and resized/moved both the Windows and the recovery partition using an old version of Acronis Disk Director.

    Seems to have worked fine! (No more unallocated space, Windows still boots)
     
  16. itman

    itman Registered Member

    Did you verify that recovery environment is operational; i.e. reagentc /info?
     
  17. roger_m

    roger_m Registered Member

    While if fine to keep using Windows 10 for now, while it is still is receiving security updates, Windows 11 is a very solid OS and is faster than Windows 10.
     
  18. roger_m

    roger_m Registered Member

    Windows 10 is fine out of the box without any tweaking or third party apps. I'd much rather use a default install of Windows 10 or 11 than any other OS. As you've been told many times, avoiding Windows Update is really bad idea. In terms of security, I'd feel adequately protected if I used Windows 10 or 11, with zero tweaking and only Microsoft Defender for security. The only reason I used third party security software rather than Defender is because I prefer the UI. I don't feel that I need extra protection.
     
  19. XIII

    XIII Registered Member

    Yes I did (and yes it was reported as active).

    (I was already hoping it would go fine since while I was moving start/end locations of partitions, the number of partitions and their relative positions did not change)
     
  20. Rasheed187

    Rasheed187 Registered Member

    Are you kidding me? Out of the box Windows 10 is horrible. :p

    I forget to mention tools like O&O ShutUp 10 that I use to disable all of that spying stuff. And I haven't installed most patches for Windows (Win XP, Win 8.1 and Win 10) in the last 20 years, not a single problem. For home user PC's, the importance of patching is overrated. I do however update Windows Defender, since it's supposed to protect my PC. But most Windows holes can't easily be exploited from remote, especially not if security tools can stop the exploit in an early stage.
     
  21. anon

    anon Registered Member

  22. plat

    plat Registered Member

    Yes, I agree but I prefer Windows 10--besides several of my games do not run on Windows 11. My other drive is a Windows 11 Insiders beta so I was considering it for a while based on some decent overall experiences with it (Windows 11). It's a choice but not a very dire one. If my partitions had been more messed up due to this KB5034441 business, I prob. would have gone ahead with it.
     
  23. kaljukass

    kaljukass Registered Member

    This KB5034441 will not be a problem for anyone whose current Windows is fine, and this KB installation does not depend on any partition, its presence or size in any way.
    Most of the so-called tutorials and recommendations you find on the internet about this are 100% wrong and have nothing to do with installing this update.

    Personally, I installed on about ten computers, including several old MBR computers, which did not have such a partition at all, and had absolutely no problems.
    So I can't understand for whom making this kind of panic and sharing of false information is useful and/or necessary again.
     
  24. Triple Helix

    Triple Helix Specialist

    I have to agree because it didn't install twice for me but I installed the other updates and rebooted then KB5034441 installed fine and I don't have any recovery partition.

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  25. Brummelchen

    Brummelchen Registered Member

    my win10 installation on BIOS/MBR has no recovery partition, so its not concerned. other machines use win11 which is pretty fresh installed in 2023, so there was no issue with the winre update for w11.
     
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