UCheck - Update your software in 2 clicks

@Tigzy,

I'm confused. I thought for unsupported programs UCheck would tell us what if there was a new version, but not support updating the program via UCheck.

In version 5.0, I'm not seeing any latest version information for unsupported programs. How do I know if there is an update or not?

Bill

 

For Google Drive Ucheck shows my version as 81.0.5.0.
It shows the latest version as 3.57.4526.0809.

Can you explain what is happening here? Why is the latest shown as 3.57.4526.0809?

Bill

 

I am very confused about UCheck.
I started the Beta and got a information window telling me, that 5.0 is available.

I closed UCheck and downloaded the new version (did not install it at this point).
Then I opened the beta version again to see this window again (to see the changes in 5.0).
But this window is no longer shown, also not by clicking on the link "5.0.0.0" on the dashboard.
Even rebooting my PC and deleting the folder "C:\ProgramData\UCheck" before.

This is a very bad UX, that there is no way to see the dialog again....

 

Is it recommended to install the new version over the old version or delete the old version first?

 

Yes ! For a week, Community updates will be silent. We are massively collecting data and I want to test everything is fine while the database is populating. See: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thr...tware-in-2-clicks.404593/page-16#post-3166582

This is cloud setting, we will turn it back on on Monday, no client update needed.

 

Did you try to click "Check for updates" ?
I think you talked about the notification, it's meant to be volative and contextual. This information can be retrieved in the dashboard, and when you click this Check for updates button.

 

It does not matter. If you have the UCheck installer it should be able to update over it.
If you use portable version, you'll have to manually replace the binary.
You can even have both on the same machine.

 

This page has been updated to add Community count:
UCheck | Software List • Adlice Software

 

It's quite a long list for now. But anyway, a lot of installed but unsupported software listed by UCheck on my PC is not listed there? Is that correct?

 

This list is only for supported software, not community list. Community list only has the count at the top.

 

For what it is worth when I choose installed from the main menu and view my installed programs it appears that the Version and Latest column's information data may be reversed. Version information will say as an example 2.1.22.456 and the Latest information will say 1.0.11.123.

 

That's probably the limitation for community updates. Not sure it's inverted, it's just the lastest version not being accurate right now (hence why community updates are disabled for a week, time to settle)

 

Hi Tigzy:

Right now the Installed tab of UCheck 5.0.0 reports that all 47 of my installed apps are up-to-date (OUTDATED = NO) even though I know a few are outdated. For example, I currently have Intel Driver & Support Assistant v23.3.25.6, even though a newer v23.4.39.9 was first detected by SUMo v5.17.10 on 27-Sep-2023.



For unsupported apps (no highlight) where UCheck does not check for available updates I would prefer to see the OUTDATED column to be blank or say "Unknown". That way users will not incorrectly assume that all their unsupported apps are up-to-date.
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Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3448 * Firefox v118.0.2 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23090.2008-1.1.23090.2007 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.4.286-1.0.2163 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7279 * Patch My PC Portable v4.5.0.4 * SUMo Free Portable v5.17.10.542 * UCheck Free Portable v5.0.0.0

 

@lmacri yes, please read: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thr...tware-in-2-clicks.404593/page-17#post-3166853

 

I am seeing this for some supported programs as well. As I reported earlier, Google Drive shows Version=82.0.1.0 and Latest=3.57.4256.0809.

Bill

 

This is local issues, we'll go through them 1by1 soon (usually once, on Monday)

 

Hi Bill H:

Just an FYI that I currently have the same issue with Microsoft OneDrive where my latest version (23.189.0910.0001) is lower than my current version (23.194.0917.001). I don't know if it's relevant, but it's also the only supported (purple) app I have where TYPE = "Only Me" instead of "All Users". Here's what my Installed tab looks like with Unsupported (no highlight) apps filtered out:



Note that Control Panel | Programs | Programs and Features as well as Settings | Apps | Apps and Features both confirm the higher v23.194.0917.001 was installed on 09-Oct-2023. UCheck lists the installed date as 10-Oct-2023, but maybe that has something to do with Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) versus my local time zone here in Canada.



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Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3448 * Firefox v118.0.2 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23090.2008-1.1.23090.2007 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.4.286-1.0.2163 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7279 * Patch My PC Portable v4.5.0.4 * SUMo Free Portable v5.17.10.542 * UCheck Free Portable v5.0.0.0

 

@Imacri,

I just checked Google Drive and for me it shows "All Users". I guess @Tigzy is going to check it out.

I never really understood the Type column. The only supported app that shows "Only Me" is Zoom. What does "Only Me" mean in UCheck?

By the way, just noticed your signature shows " SUMo Free Potable", but I think you mean Portable.

Bill

 

Hi BIll H:

Some programs will only install for the current user that is logged in to Windows (i.e., "Only Me"). See the Ask Leo! article Why Don’t Installed Programs Show Up for All Users? for more information.

If you have multiple people logging in to the same computer (or have multiple users accounts) each user can downloaded and install different UWP (Universal Windows Program) apps from the Microsoft Store like Spotify, Phone Link, etc. to customize their own account. Installing an app while logged in as User A might not install it for User B and User C, and uninstalling an app while logged in as User B might not remove that app for User A and User C.

If that isn't what TYPE means in UCheck I hope @Tigzy will correct me.
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Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3448 * Firefox v118.0.2 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23090.2008-1.1.23090.2007 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.4.286-1.0.2163 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7279 * Patch My PC Portable v4.5.0.4 * SUMo Free Portable v5.17.10.542 * UCheck Free Portable v5.0.0.0

 

@Imacri,

I see. I only have one user account on my PC so I assumed that everything installed would be "All Users". I didn't realize that even with only one user account, some programs could be installed as "Current User" or "Only Me".

Bill

 

I opened the portable version 4.10.2.0 of UCheck x64.


When I click on the black link "Nach Updates suchen" also nothing happens.
When I click on the white link "veraltet, 5.0.0.0", then nothing happens, but here I expect that the update-information window is shown.

I do not mean the little popup window, telling me only, that there is a version available.
I mean the large window (nearly the same window size as UCheck), that has in the upper part a red background and white font and that contains details about the new version.

It is totally bad to see this window only once and then never again.

UPDATE

I was able to see this window in my VM by clicking on the link with the new version number.



And now I see, that this window is only shown in the unregistered version (at least I suppose this when I read the res message).
It is a very very bad UX, that registered users do never see a window with the change log (used the same EXE in my VM and my PC, only in my VM I see this window).

 

So you have about 7,500 applications in your database, where you at lest inform about new versions.
Cool!

 

Start looking like SUMo

 

The following is a follow-up to my prior post (#358, 6 Oct 2023) regarding how updates to portable software will be handled by UCheck.

My recommendation that portable apps NOT be handled as compatible programs was meant to prompt reconsideration and possible elimination of the added workload of proceeding with separate processes for compatible and unknown (community) portable programs, so at least the approach for handling community programs can be established in the near term. Compatible programs will always be a very small percentage of portable programs in use by the UCheck community. A community approach may also provide quicker identification of an update to a program than the traditional approach used if it were handled as compatible. Support for portable apps is currently limited to a single demo case of a compatible portable program (AdwCleaner) and that capability is very recent and not in general use. Therefore, I don’t think the word “regress” really applies. It is certainly possible to support downloading for compatible portable programs if desired but silent installation for portable programs is generally not feasible. Portable programs generally do not come with installers and a manual process is required to handle the many variations among programs and user installation possibilities. Given that UCheck has not supported updates to portable software or used a community-based process in the past, it is not clear that existing UCheck users would have pre-conceived expectations of how UCheck should support portable programs.

As you indicated in your recent response to lmacri (#378, 6 Oct 2023), handling of portable programs is more complicated than for installed programs. Installed programs generally have sufficient data in the registry to allow UCheck to check for updates without needing to locate the corresponding program executable file. For portable programs, there is no corresponding data equivalent to the uninstall data in the registry. From the case of the current single UCheck compatible portable program (AdwCleaner), I assume UCheck knows the exact name of the executable file (adwcleaner.exe) and can search the custom locations for it and extract the required data (name, version, company) embedded in the file. This method is certainly feasible for handling a limited number of other compatible portable programs. However, for community portable programs there is no list of the corresponding executable files to search for and the number of such programs is potentially unlimited. SUMo manages to locate the corresponding executable file for both portable and installed programs with great accuracy, but this process is complex and requires maintenance. From a user standpoint, SUMo does not distinguish between portable and installed programs and treats all programs as community programs.

In my previous post, I suggested having users place shortcuts to the portable executables they wished to have checked for update in a custom locations folder. UCheck could then retrieve these shortcuts and know exactly which file to check. The user could exclude a portable program from being checked by simply not providing a shortcut for that portable program. For a more user-friendly and reliable implementation of this approach, I would recommend that an interactive table be available in UCheck to register portable programs to be checked. The table would permit the shortcut or .exe file to be dragged and dropped onto the form and the UCheck client would extract, display and record the program name, version, company and file path of the executable. Options to add, delete, refresh and verify one or more entries in the table would also be provided to allow the user to maintain the data. This approach would require some effort and discipline on the part of the user to maintain the table if they want their community programs to be checked for update. The initial population of the table may require a few hours if the user has a large number of such programs, but subsequent changes should not take much time if done in conjunction with manual installation of an update. For those programs which are handled as compatible like AdwCleaner, this manual registration would not be required since UCheck would be expected to search for the corresponding executable rather than being provided its file path by the user.

As noted in my previous post, Patch My PC (PMPC) currently supports a list of 32 compatible portable programs. It uses a different approach. It does not check executable files. It requires an initial download of the program through the PMCP GUI and then identifies and tracks subsequent updates downloaded through the GUI.

 

This is to make the distinction between apps installed in HKLM (Local Machine) and HKCU (Current User)