Windows Security (aka MS Defender) has come a long way since the security debacle of the XP operating systems. It's not a real poll, but I'll answer by saying that Windows Security is doing an excellent job in protecting my system from non existent threats for average users. What are your thoughts about it? Sorry about the title it should have read 'protecting you from malware' I tried to edit the title but I couldn't find a way.
I think that's key to the whole thing but all products are effective at that. I care far less about protection (again, most products will take care of most things) than I do about bugs that delete all of the shortcuts on my system, delete false positives faster than I can download them, and tells me that my system does not support basic hardware security because of bugs that get past what must be minimal testing. 3rd party options for me and that won't change until I can see literal years of bug free operation while still being at least minimally effective. Not to be a total downer, I'm happy that they do produce this product for free for those that wish to use it. It is better than nothing any day.
I would like it better if they let us configure its performance. For example, detection on-execution like other AVs are able to do.
I consider Defender to be average. It works mostly, but it is far from being effective, whether it is protection or GUI and it just too bothersome and slow. It is the last AV that I would use or recommend.
I feel happy that I don't have to use any AV on my personal laptop. AVs are privacy nightmare and are causing system slowdown
Does that mean that you have zero programs installed on your computer then, as any program has the potential to be a "privacy nightmare"? Some AV's cause a slowdown on some computers, in many causes its not even noticeable unless you use some kind of benchmarking program. Sometimes it is, then you just move on and try the next.
Yes, I like Windows Security, however I use it in combination with Malwarebytes, I like the one-two punch. https://www.howtogeek.com/225385/wh...r-windows-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/ Acadia
Yep, I have programs. AV don't have just a potential: they actually are big, cloud-connected engines that constantly monitor everything. And I don't agree that any program has that potential.
First with Avira then Kaspersky and now Windows Security, I haven't had a single detection of anything remotely related to malware as far back as 12 years. I don't know how you guys can state this is good or bad, there is no malware as far as I'm concerned...
I wonder about the value of yet another WD / MD thread. It is supposed to be a poll but there isn't anything to vote on.
Bothersome? How? Slow? This is an old controversy, for some it's slows down their machine, others can hardly tell its presence. I'm not disputing the fact that some machines are affected by MS Defender, it is well known that any AV can behave differently in different hardware/software environments. In my old Samsung machine it didn't affect its speed at all. My new machine came with MacAfee preinstalled, and as soon as I uninstalled it and let MS Defender take over, there was a visible increase in speed... Now I'm not an apologist for Defender, I couldn't care less, but I have it incorporated in the OS, and I can't see any side effects running it. As I have already mentioned, I haven't experienced malware for a long long time, I'm only sorry I spent quite a bit of money for antimalware software which was totally unnecessary.
Microsoft is anti-trust sensitive; we will allow other browsers, & AVs to exist on Windows but not allow removal. Press the wrong key & you are back in EDGE. Since WD intro to it's fair. I don't want to take that journey with them installed. While they catch up to the pack? Bad rep. still lingers for WD @xxJackxx M$ think we cannot, in good conscience, let folks have this without, some protection. An excuse to enter the AV market, and reply if needed, to say to trust buster, anti-competition laws. The big dog needs to allow some scraps for the little dogs, & not crush the comp. M$ also has the worst tech support, not improved from long ago a pc mag ratings. FCR's, first call resolution is a metric, for promotion. Explain reluctance not to escalate. That metric, not seen, better support policies.
Same over here, so far Win Defender has detected nothing on my system, except for a couple of false positives. So I can't say how effective it is, but according to tests it's pretty good now, back in the days it used to be total crap. I do hate the GUI, I feel like it should look more like an actual AV, and it also slows down performance sometimes. Some people might believe that Win Defender has solved all of the malware problems on home user PC's, but in order to make such statements we need to know how many times Win Defender has actually blocked malware on those millions of machines, know what I mean? Perhaps all of these non-infected people have simply never encountered malware.
I have no problems with Defender on here. I tolerate it b/c it doesn't interfere and doesn't make itself known. If I had McAfee as a first party instead of Defender and it behaved like that, I would have no problems with it. Doesn't make me a fan, just has me giving credit where it's due. If there was something dire happening, I trust my other stuff to handle it before Defender. It's mainly to keep the OS from getting too many errors from disabling something embedded like that.
I recently saw a couple of videos on The PC Security Channel where Win Defender missed a couple of ransomware samples, probably because it relies to heavily on the cloud, so it's best to combine it with extra protection tools like behavior blockers. https://thepcsecuritychannel.com
Every antivirus will miss some ransomware, because no antivirus provides 100% protection. As always, I will say that the best way to avoid infection is to be careful what files you open. Sure, you can add extra security software if you want, to provide more protection, but it's not something I personally would ever do.
Correct, no AV is bulletproof. But why not try to improve your defence with behavior blockers, know what I mean? The problem is that everytime you download some app, it might be malware. Even if the chance is not that big if it's listed on trusted download sites, you still can't be sure. And about Win Defender, after PC reset I have noticed that it's now active as soon as the PC is not used, even when you disable cloud protection (which is not recommended), so I wonder what's up with this.
For me it's very simple. I want security software to be as unobtrusive as possible. I want to be alerted when malware or a file that may be malicious is found, although I don't really care if I'm notified about PUPs and the like, which aren't malicious. I also want to be alerted if there is a high likelihood that an app is trying to do something malicious. If I was to add extra security software, then it would lead to more alerts, which is something I most definitely do not want. There can be other problems too. When I briefly used HitmanPro Alert it caused some issues for me. https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thr...iscussion-thread.324841/page-369#post-2577971 I also used VoodooShield briefly. The few seconds delay when I launched an installer, was enough for me to ditch it. I know that in my case, it's highly unlikely my PC will get infected, even if I'm only using an antivirus for security. For me, that's enough reason to not use any extra security software. If I felt the need to use such software, I would. But each to their own. This is works for me, you and others, should do what they feel is best for them.
Yes exactly, it depends on your preferences. I also don't like to be bothered with false positives and too many alerts. So I can understand that eventually you stopped using HMPA. But I have configured my security software in ways to limit alerts. But when I first signed up on this forum it became clear to me that no AV is bulletproof, and 20 years later it's still the same. So for me extra protection tools are a must, because you never know when you will encounter malware. Just yesterday The PC Security Channel published a video of how Win Defender couldn't detect/block an infostealer that he received via email, it was a ZIP file with a .exe disguised as a PDF. This is how people get hacked in real life, and no it won't always make it to the news.
