Hasleo Backup Suite

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  1. EASTER

    EASTER Registered Member

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    So far everything works well and Image Takes & Restores are on track efficiently here from it's latest release.

    If i had to needle pick anything it might be the UFD ED delay as well as 'maybe' the Boot Menu added, however that alone hardly can be of any real concern on this end as i have other boot disks where some are simply slower loading when others are more responsive. But a speed test on that function isn't priority. The better important part is after Loading from either method that @Hasleo Backup Suite performs and performs well, which it has/does on my Windows 10 & 8.1.

    I might add rather rapidly compared to other Backup Programs onboard on this end.
     
  2. Asterixpl

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    I have been using HBS for 3 months. I create a copy and restore the system . Everything works as excellent. At my place it works. So I will not say a bad word. I trust this program. HBS is going in the right direction.

    The only caveat is that there are not enough updates to the program. Yes it is OK
     
  3. TheRollbackFrog

    TheRollbackFrog Imaging Specialist

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    I have also been using this Backup Suite for a while now. It has inched its way up to my secondary (backup) imaging environment. Due to its multi-core/thread usage in both imaging and restoration processes, it is also very quick at what it does. Both SYSTEM and PARTITION modes (as well as FILE) work as advertised so I currently have no issues with the software... just waiting on feature additions as time permits (it is FREE after all).
     
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    @TheRollbackFrog - Just to be clear when using Hasleo Backup Suite.

    As you know for years my specialty is been malware testing of the most notorious and sharing of devising counter-measures that prevent them. With most of that time and effort well achieved, turning my attention fully to backup/restore projects now, i'm finding it far more interesting.

    My question is this: On Partition Only backups and restores, as opposed to full disk only backups i always relied on, can i assume right that partition only backups do just that. And is infinitely more rapid both imaging AND restoring Windows Only?

    Also can you point out what makes it any different than a full disk backup? What i am getting at is that omitting data and a disk's supporting sub partitions is perfectly harmless, but in your expert opinion, what gives a partition only backup advantage compared to a full disk one. I assume it's the simplicity and good speed when selecting the lesser capacity of excluding data on a divided disk with additional partitions?
     
  5. Spartan

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    I didn't try Hasleo Backup Suite yet but with Macrium Reflect, by default, it checks all the partitions on a disk, like the EFI and Restore and Windows or whatever more partitions there may be for computers with a factory image as well. Does Hasleo also back up everything or you let you have a choice on what to select? With Macrium, it is ok to just backup C: but a better idea would be to backup all the other partitions in case some system error or malware destroyed or altered those partitions.
     
  6. EASTER

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    Just did a Files Backup with Hasleo. Also conducted another new Windows 10 Backup after finally installing the Backup suite this time. Superb efficient extra features built in to this Suite. Working my way around to using those other methods generously provided with it.

    The Boot Menu Option works with ease on Windows 10 here. The file backup feature also works as expected & advertised flawlessly.

    No UFD this time. Every action was carried out with the program installed. Not a hint of any issue.

    Ran a "LIVE" incremental at near light-speed it did in 2 minutes and 3 seconds. WowNve

    Unlike my 8.1 units, my Windows 10 is equipped with 2022 NVMe technology

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  7. TheRollbackFrog

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    @EASTER - the imaging options in HBS are basically identical to Macrium REFLECT. If you do a "System Backup," HBS selects the partitions needed to reBOOT the System completely. Those partitions, with an UEFI System, are the EFI partition (all the BOOT info), the SR Partition (the old MicroSloth System Reserved partition), the OS partition and the registered Windows Recovery Partition. With a Legacy-MBR System it would be the SR (if it exists) & OS partitions. These are the building blocks needed to reconstruct a BOOTable OS disk once again.

    The "Disk/Partition Backup" allows you to image whatever disk/partition set you wish... your choice. You talk of Partition imaging just to image the OS partition for efficiency purposes. Think about the difference between just an OS partition backup and a "System Backup"... it's not very much. The EFI partition is about 100mB, the SR partition is only 16mB if unused, and the Windows Recovery partition is 400-500mB... compare that to the OS partition (usually lots and lots of gB). There's not much difference between just the OS partition and a "System Backup" operation... that why most users will do a System Backup and if they only need the OS partition to restore, use a single partition restoration to do so from that System Backup image.

    On difference in Partition backups and full disk backups... your third paragraph assumption is correct

    @Spartan - as mentioned above, HBS does exactly what Macrium Reflect does... you can choose the whole disk, a partition subset of that disk or just the System Backup (all partitions only needed for restoration of a fully BOOTable OS environment... no others that may also be resident on that disk).

    Most of the product differences lie in the restoration modes of the backup suite.
     
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  8. EASTER

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    @TheRollbackFrog - With so many very useful AND reliable procedure actions available in Hasleo (as you say like Macrium), isn't it missing one detail of being able to MOUNT it's IMAGE like old Drive Snapshot to explore and access files & folders? That would be icing on the cake IMO.

    I read at least one Wilder's Forum member who took a dim view as he said it (Hasleo) couldn't or doesn't offer to easy mount their backup image. Another member seems could but had to enter Restore Mode to do it.

    That's confusing since when we click on RESTORE it's purposed to begin a restore. Any thoughts or suggestions on that?

    As you might guess i am very high on this program now (came out of nowhere to here) and it's so well fashioned that it's truly amazing to me. It is every bit in my opinion so paper thin close to just as dependable and incredibly reliable as my favorite Aomei Backupper. That's another story. A year ago i wouldn't bat an eye at Backupper yet now for me it is proven solidly magnificent, so much so that my long time Drive Snapshot will be relegated to storage and non use.

    Hasleo surprisingly has risen swiftly to the top 2 on my list of Back Up Image/Restore plans/list courtesy it's impressive POSITIVE RESULTS.
     
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  9. TheRollbackFrog

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    I spoke to the Devs concerning that option and indeed it is on their product roadmap... when to be available, I cannot tell. BUT, the current FileRestore option is more than adequate for anyone that needs files. Although it's done through a "restore" function, the action has nothing to do with restoring disks or partitions, only files. The partition/location of the files you want is mounted internally in their software and the selected FileSet is extracted and placed in a special folder that you location specify... no restoration of disks or partitions is processed in this mode, only files. Although this method is a bit unorthodox compared to other imagers, it's a completely adequate solution until standard partition mounting is available in their product... you can get any FileSet you want from an imaged partition/disk.

    ...and if you think about it, the poster you mentioned complaining about entering RESTORE mode to get file access... that's exactly what you're doing, RESTORING files :cool:. That's exactly what you would be doing if mounting a partition and copying files MANUALLY. It's doing exactly the same thing inside of the application process instead of external to it manually.
     
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    Excellent that it's on their To-Do list @TheRollbackFrog. They appear very responsive to users and the Developer is very prompt in expressing their attention from feature requests to stepping in on any concerns.
     
  11. SeriousHoax

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    Hello @Hasleo
    I have started to use Hasleo Backup Suite free recently and I like it very much.
    But while restoring, there's an option to shutdown the system when the operation is complete.
    My feature request would be to have an option to restart the system after the restore operation completes.
    Don't know if anyone has already asked for it in this thread above.
     
  12. pb1

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    @Hasleo

    +1 :thumb:.

    I had a similar suggestion in post #199.
    When the backup is done there is only 2 ways to go, really, restart or shut down. Just sitting there, as it is now, is not a real option since you will use the Pc sooner or later.
    So the reasonable thing to do would be to restart automaticly since that is what often is the desirable, optionally, shut down. So, at least, thoose 2 as options with the alternative "Remember my choice", should at least be added to the present situation that occurs after the completed restore.
     
  13. TheRollbackFrog

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    I would encourage feature requests to be made not only here but on Hasleo's Forum in their FEATURE REQUESTS Thread... just to be sure the request is seen.

    I believe a similar request is already there...
     
  14. Spartan

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    with Macrium Reflect, let's say I have a 128GB USB Flash drive, when I create the Macrium Reflect bootable recovery media, it only partitions 1 GB out of the total space leaving me with the remaining where I can create another partition dedicated to storing images. Does Hasleo do the same or does it take the entire size as the partition where I would need to use some external partition manager to split it to create another partition?
     
  15. khanyash

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    If HBS identifies a problem with the restoration, it displays the error on the UI when the restore is complete. How does HBS react in such a situation with the "shutdown" option selected?
     
  16. EASTER

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    Well, for the time being and unless that is added as an option, what i do is simply manually restart the computer.

    I like it very much also. It's proven reliable and offers a good many additional selections to choose from.
     
  17. pb1

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    Done!
     
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    Do not know. Ask Hasleo.
     
  19. khanyash

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    HBS crashes often here, and the created dump files are empty. I tried a fresh install, and the outcome was the same. For security software, I use Windows Firewall and VoodooShield. There are no blocks in VoodooShield. I don't use any third-party cleaning or optimizing tools. Anyone using HBS with VoodooShield? Is HBS running well for you?
     
  20. EASTER

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    I'm no expert on this by any stretch. but it sounds on the surface (grasping straws) like there could be an unrealized until you of some conflict with VoodooShield for some reason. You could report that issue to the Hasleo Forums and you will get some feedback pretty fast if they can reproduce it or not.

    Hasleo runs fine on my Windows 10 with Windows Defender ON. But no VoodooShield if that can be of any help.
     
  21. khanyash

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    I have reported the issue to Hasleo along with log files. They required the dump files too, but another issue is that the created dump files are empty. I too suspect VoodooShield. Let's see if any HBS users with VoodooShield installed have the crash issue or not.
     
  22. EASTER

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    It's so strange that a backup program would run into some conflict that causes a system crash with a security protection program but i imagine with Windows anything is possible.

    Hope you get that issue resolved, and soon.
     
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  23. khanyash

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    HBS crashes, not the system. Sometimes HBS doesn't start with Windows, and sometimes HBS processes disappear from Task Manager. When I try to run HBS manually, it mentions "The service didn't start."
     
  24. EASTER

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    I see. That is a concern and one i would think Hasleo would want to look into ASAP.

    On the service not starting i can offer some small suggestion- You could Manually use under Adminstration Tools in Control Panel "Services" and right click on it and choose Restart Service to see if that restores stability or not. Just something to try. No fix but might prevent it to crash. As to not starting normally that requires some looking into why not by @Hasleo. Also it might be a localized issue with just your computer & an another software restricting it from running the service normally as intended.

    I will never suggest to any user uninstalling their security program to test this or that so that's off the table.
     
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  25. stapp

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    @khanyash
    Does VS show anything in its user log?
    If you use Windows Reliability Monitor what does it list at the time of the problem?
    (Press Start and immediately type the word Reliability and Windows will automagically list it for you)
     
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