Anyone understand the Waterfox version system?

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  1. Uitlander

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  2. nicolaasjan

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    The archive of all Windows versions is at:
    https://cdn.waterfox.net/releases/win64/installer/
    (found via a link at https://www.waterfox.net/download/)
    But the latest is 56.2.9 (16-Apr-2019).

    Maybe you need "Waterfox Classic"?
    Waterfox Classic 2021.10 works on Windows 7:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/2p19u4184au2kmr/Waterfox.png

    But I have a fully updated W7 (ESU).

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    When launching a second time Waterfox updated to 2022-11.
     
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    It's quite an old version, but if you're looking for it.

    Code:
    https://github.com/WaterfoxCo/Waterfox/releases/tag/68.0a1
     
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    That must be KB4474419.
    Here it is:
    Code:
    https://catalog.update.microsoft.com/search.aspx?q=kb4474419
     
  5. Brummelchen

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    who should care about waterfox? G4 is outdated and vulnerable, and G5 not ready.

    "68.0" means based on firefox 68 (ESR i think) which is really really old and very vulnerable, only native users use such old crap which is compatible to nothing.
    (seamonkey still uses gecko v68 and has a lot of new and important issues and somehow now not compatible to a lot of pages)
     
  6. Uitlander

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    I care, and I'm an army of one. Given a choice between an old version of Waterfox and (almost as bad as Chrome) Firefox...I'll go for Waterfox. Problem being it's current rendition has the enforced auto-update crapola of Firefox, hence I have to go for a legacy version. So far as I can determine, that means Waterfox 68, according to what I read on their site. Now if you have a way to nuke the autoupdate 'feature' in the current version of Waterfox (that does not require me to study coding or do a whole lot of complex keyboard acrobatics), then I'll reconsider. Until then, I'll eschew any software that has a 'feature' that cannot be neutralized, takes the choice from me, and gives it to other control freaks...if that requires downgrading, que sera sera.
     
  7. Uitlander

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    Yes, exactly why I don't need Waterfox Classic (and removed it with IObit). Waterfox has now the same mandatory autoupdate junk as Firefox. So far as I know it cannot be permanently nuked, so the only option is to find a rendition before that 'feature' was hardwired into it.
     
  8. Brummelchen

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    means newer SHA-2? mandatory for firefox 100+
    but i would bet this is not usable without any other basic updates.

    they security issues in windows 7 exceed 800 and more, why care about some more with an outdated browser engine which has as written also lots of flaws and issues?

    go figure
    https://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=40
     
  9. Uitlander

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    Thanks but I'm not wanting any updates from M$ to my Win 7. They already forced some 'updates' on me before I could deploy ways and means to lock them out of my rig...which will cost me money to have a computer tech do a housecall to eradicate.
     
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    Excellent! Many thanks. I'll try it out to see how it works for surfing, and whether it can resist the autoupdate junk that surreptitiously replaced the Waterfox Classic. If not, I'll have to rely on Comodo IceDragon for my Firefox replacement.
     
  11. billmcct

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    I'm using the lates version of Waterfox Classic 2022.11. Also all other previous versions and they DON'T auto update. Working just fine on Win 7.
    https://github.com/WaterfoxCo/Waterfox-Classic/releases/download/2022.11-classic/WaterfoxClassic2022.11.exe
     
  12. Uitlander

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    Until I went over to Win 7 recently, I had been using XP Pro for well over five years. Yeah that OS (with its outdated browsers) which every security-obsessed user was constantly issuing dire pronouncements of impending doom about, and using cvedetails to back up his ipse dixits!
    Know how many such warnings I got while using XP? Neither do I....lost count after the first couple years. Hundreds?

    Know how many such attacks I got, as enumerated on that site? Zero. Nada. Not even one! Worst I ever had to deal with was two or three PUPs I got from MajorGeeks or Softpedia. But while on the subject of vulnerabilities, let's look at everyones darling Win 10, shall we?

    https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerab...26/product_id-32238/Microsoft-Windows-10.html

    I’ll pose the same question to you...the total number of "security issues" in Win 10 now stands at 2990...why care about browser security when your OS has more holes than a sieve? Or when your OS has more embedded corporate malware/spyware than CNET has to offer up in their downloads? An OS with a built-in keylogger is what you consider more secure than Win 7? Cvedetails lists Win 7 vulnerabilities at 2276. So you really believe the extra 714 more vulnerabilities of Win 10 makes it superior to Win 7? Really?
     
  13. Brummelchen

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    the point you missed that 2990 is in total and fixed.
    https://www.cvedetails.com/product/32238/Microsoft-Windows-10.html?vendor_id=26

    2276 in total for win7 and NOT fixed for you since 2009 (remember, you wrote "no updates")
    https://www.cvedetails.com/product/17153/Microsoft-Windows-7.html?vendor_id=26

    further:
    Windows 10 Vulnerabilities (0)
    Windows 7 Vulnerabilities (436)

    you cannot compare a vital system with a totally unpatched one. too bad, for you.
    anything else means that you had a lot of luck.

    "superior" means better, and yes, concerning security your windows 7 is really worse. the major problem of such user like you that they lie at themselves and dont accept the truth about security because they dont understand anything or are not interested. at least #2 and #5 tells it all.

    if you want to know what mozilla has fixed since v68 gecko:
    https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/
    i refered to the seamonkey forum because SM is also still using gecko v68. does not matter if waterfox or seamonkey.

    good luck

    ESU as mentioned above is to pay, and ends jan'2023, since feb'23 any windows 7 is definitely EOL and considerend as insecure. ESU is paid, any other is illegal. 0patch is silly.

    i have written too much for now.
     
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