Mozilla Firefox Browser Stable Version Releases

Er .. please correct me if I'm wrong - isn't it always necessary that a file is downloaded when it's viewed in some application?
Until a few Firefox version ago, the file was downloaded and saved in a temp folder, where it was out of sight. With recent Firefox versions, the file is saved in Downloads, by default, and the user must do the cleanup.
The plan is to offer an about:config option in Firefox 102 to re-enable the use of (a subfolder of) the temp folder when downloads start.
See:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1738574#c127
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1738574#c129 -->
https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com/D146719#4797369

 

@Brummelchen :

O.k. I will see how I will continue.

Just two remarks:

I still do not understand if you use in Firefox "Open with PDF-XChange Editor" as preferred action for pdf-files or not. ("I cannot select PDF-X" vs. "a pdf from given link will run PDF-X").

So one more attempt:
Is this your setting in Firefox (respectively a setting you have tried) (simply: yes / no):

Seems you are a big fan of camp-firefox. (As I told you: I don't like the attitude and behaviour of the leading people there. If you are possibly part of them by yourself - well it will not change my opinion. ) But my judging is not wrong: Mozilla established a feature (automatic download without asking the user) (I think with version 98.0 in March) which obviously was disapproved by so many users that they changed it in the recent version (o.k. they did not eliminate it completely [as I wrote above], but they reduced it to an option).

And as you value rational information (that's good!) here some links with quotes by two people belonging to the Mozilla staff:

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/idea...stead-of-auto/idc-p/3063/highlight/true#M1183 :

*[= "Choose to always ask to download files instead of auto-downloading"]

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/no-more-auto-save/idc-p/4899/highlight/true#M2134 :

**[= "No more auto save"]

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/idea...-from-the-web/idc-p/6373/highlight/true#M2963 :

***[Finally it happened already with version 101.]

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/idea...stead-of-auto/idc-p/6964/highlight/true#M3325 :

This happened against the predictions and the philosophy of the boss of camp-firefox. But that's no reason to qualify the fact as "wrong".

 

I must admit that I never cared a lot about my temp folders (except of emptying them from time to time). Moreover I use Firefox exclusively in Sandboxie (so that the relevant files are eliminated automatically whenever I close the browser). So: Yes, you are right in all. But fact is that I never "saw" a pdf-file (opened with my viewer) on my desktop (= my standard place for downloaded files). Only since the introduction of the automatic-download-feature this situation had changed. (Presumably with "automatic download" Mozilla meant: "download not only in a temp folder but permanently". Something like that.)

 

Yes, that is correct. The download behavior was changed, when viewing a document, no longer is it downloaded to a temp folder, but instead to the Download folder.
As I mentioned, the plan is to offer an about:config option in Firefox 102 to re-enable the use of (a subfolder of) the temp folder when downloads start.

 

What will be an additional advantage to the already existing option of an (automatic) download to a place chosen by the user? Someone who prefers the temp folder as download place could choose it anyway (via the settings).

 

If I understand correctly, the user defined download folder is for intentional downloads, the temp folder will be for files automatically downloaded for viewing and not meant to save.

Edit
Added info from the Firefox 102.0 beta Release Notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/102.0beta/releasenotes/
"Changed
There is now an enterprise policy (StartDownloadsInTempDirectory) and an about:config pref (browser.download.start_downloads_in_tmp_dir) that will once again cause Firefox to initially put downloads in (a subfolder of) the OS temp folder, instead of the download folder configured in Firefox. Files opened from the "what should Firefox do with this file" dialog, or set to open in helper applications automatically, will stay in this folder. Files saved (not opened as previously mentioned) will still end up in the Firefox download folder."

 

O.k. We'll see what version 102 will bring in this respect.

 

thats correct, but this do not concern the given behavior where Peter 123 has a problem.

this option was not available in a new test profile. simple as that.
but i does not make a difference, the pdf viewer here is opened after click whether i select pdf viewer or "Windows Standardanwendung".

and ofc sandboxie can change firefox behavior, so it seems you have a problem within sandboxie and not firefox. and you never mentioned sandboxie before for this issue. input means output. further, mozilla is not responsible for sandboxie nor resposnsible like firefox will behave in sandboxie. users often forgot this.

see the image from me. file types, about: config, page, and the download popup, i can not take a screenshot that fast as pdf viewer opens. and this also happens with new profile and "Windows Standardanwendung", and ofc pdf viewer is also my default pdf program in windows. it do not matter which one i chose.

 

In daily use I browse with Firefox always within Sandboxie. But of course I made all the tests we were discussing with Firefox outside of Sandboxie - just to be sure that the issues are not caused because of Sandboxie. So whatever I wrote referred to Firefox outside of Sandboxie. (Within Sandboxie of course the situation is the same.)

I assume you would have to look for a specific PDF viewer via the option "Andere Anwendung":



That's the way it worked for me after creating a new Firefox profile. But anyway I see in your screenshot that finally you tested with PDF-XChange ("Viewer" in your case) too.

Nevertheless, when I create a completely new firefox profile and the issue is still (or better: already) here, I can hardly imagine that it could have to do with my settings.

 

Does is not? I may be mistaken, but to me, it looks as if Peter 123's main complaint comes forth of the fact that with the current download behavior, when viewing a document, no longer is it downloaded to a temp folder, out of sight, but instead to the Download folder.
But again, perhaps I'm mistaken and don't understand Peter 123's main problem. That is on Peter 123 to say.

 

Yes, always speaking about pdf-files and opening with "PDF-XChange Editor" as preferred action. In this case I have an undesired "double action": Opening with the PDF-X Editor works but there is also the ("permanent") download to the Download folder (= Desktop in my case). Maybe (and I assume) that the opening with the PDF-X application causes an additional (second) download to a temp folder (I did not check it).

Anyway, for the time being I will stay with the modification in about:config: "browser.download.improvements_to_download_panel" -> switching to "False".
If some day this is no longer possible (and if the new option in Firefox 102 cannot help) I will change the preferred action for pdf-files to "Always ask". Because when chosing the PDF-X Editor with this intermediate step, the undesired "parallel" download does not occur too.

 

no, it does not. it only switches from the regular \temp\ folder to a specified subfolder which is under the control of firefox (unless it is closed). and ofc it will only happen first with firefox 102, because the next esr is also 102. i dont know if esr users will have a visible option, for regular versions that may not happen. the switch in prefs is same, but not enabled by default!

based on his settings he still get the dialog what to do with pdf instead get immediately opened as it does here (on my computer, fresh profile).

if it is no issue in profile then it must be outside. those are antivirus (not defender, i use defender), or a userscript in firefox-exe-folder. or a forgotten "\Mozilla Firefox\distribution\policies.json".
to check with -->

Code:

about:policies

just guessing: or maybe a forgotten user.js he copied for convenience and automatically.

dont know, i am not sitting at his computer. if that would be a general failure we probably would have heard more complaints.

 

No, that's a misunderstanding. I get no dialog at all. The pdf file is opened immediately (desired behaviour) but additionally it is downloaded (in my download folder = the desktop). All without any asking.

Definitely not an antivirus as I only use Windows Defender too. For the rest: Maybe. But as a simple explanation/solution for the issue could not be found I will stay with the described workaround via about:config.

 

If you use Firefox on *ubuntu, and wonder why Firefox version 101 is late,
I read it is because of rustc 1.59 and cargo 0.60 required by firefox 101.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ source/rustc/ bug/1968345

Yesterday, June 8, oSoMoN (Olivier Tilloy) wrote,
"The rustc and cargo updates are almost ready, so I expect the firefox update should be unblocked today. It will still require a bit of time to build and validate, but if everything goes well before the end of the week it will be available to all users on all supported releases."
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/firefox-101-missing/28796/3

 

Thanks for posting. We'll see how it works out. I have been having a lot of issues with it.

 

i had none so it must be a special security software setup.

 

you're welcome, @xxJackxx .

 

thats why i wrote

he also had/has freezes on bing which were rare. maybe win11 related, dont know.
or ESET related as he mentioned a license.
i dont have doubt that mozilla fixed a bug now.