As I've written elsewhere, summer is rapidly approaching. I have to place the only pc left in the house in a place where in summer temperatures reach high values. I insert the measurement of the ambient temperature today at 13:00 and the corresponding temperatures measured with HWMonitor Ambient Temperature 21.1 °C The pc is an "all in one". I've never measured the ambient temperature in this part of the house in July/August, but it can probably be as high as 35/36°C. What is the maximum temperature you can subject the CPU to in order to last as long as possible? Has any forum member verified if the "balanced" versus "performance" plan (my choice) allows for a significant decrease in CPU temperature. How can I improve the cooling considering the type of pc,without being able to use an air conditioner in the room? A powerful fan? TH to all.
Idle, Load and Max [intel] CPU Temperatures https://www.buildcomputers.net/cpu-temperature.html Idle and Load AMD CPU Temperatures https://www.buildcomputers.net/amd-cpu-temperature.html
My CPU is AMD, max temperature (it is lower than Intel) 95°C load temperature from 53-72°C. P.S. If the outside temperature, as I fear, is about half of the CPU load temperature I will in the months I wrote probably exceed 72°C.
Your BIOS will most likely have a fan control section. There should be "performance" or "max" or 100% settings for all your fans. I'm not familiar with all-in-one systems, but there might be a fan or two more along with the CPU one. All at 100% or max for you. There should be a temperature vs RPM grid where percentage values can be set, or an X-Y GUI where you can slide values up and down. Better yet, your PC might be bundled with fan control software. If you need help with that, attach the BIOS user manual PDF here or the URL to it. And/or a URL to the manufacturer's site for your PC. The downside is... dust build up. You must weigh that against your cooling goals. Hopefully, your PC might have filters. Otherwise, you could find your air intake(s) and affix some filtering. I've had success with this product on intakes of various electronic gear and laptops and PCs. But, it's not pretty if the intake isn't out of sight. https://www.webproducts.com/web-vent-register-filters-12-pack.html Try searching in Italian for "air vent filter" in your local. Amazon Italy should return several brands as it does here in the USA. A small fan pointing at the back of your all-in-one would be beneficial to the whole unit overall in the long run. Feel around the back for a hot spot and direct the fan's favor at that. Without a fan, heat dissipation would be merely convectional given there will be times when the all-in-one is on and with no other fan(s) in the room in operation. Do you know of Open Hardware Monitor? https://openhardwaremonitor.org/ It's like HWInfo,but not as complex and has a wonderful, highly configurable desktop widget: Been waiting years for M.2 NVMe SSD temperature support. Sigh. In Win10, I use the "balanced" power option with the minimum processor state at 10% (I forget the default) and, of course, maximum at 100%. This keeps all 8 cores idling at 800 MHz, the eight individually throttling up and down as needed with peaks at 5000 MHz, all eight peaking during heavy processing as in the video work I do at times. This just makes sense to me and I've never investigated the subtle effects of power settings on temperatures, which would probably be a lot of work. A "significant decrease in CPU temperature" is unlikely IMHO. As an FYI: My experience for a desktop PC I built in a three fan case... Summer temps here are consistently 37-46°C. Up to 52° sometimes. In an effort of economy, I set my HVAC thermostat to 27.7°. Right now, room temp is 27.2°. CPU is at 35°. Under similar condition yesterday, it hit 67° when processing a video. My record peak so far has been 86°. CPU fan is a Noctua NH-U12S which I keep at its max 1150 RPM this time of year and in the cooler seasons, the BIOS "standard" speed management. It took me about two months to configure the three fans' RPMs, and I keep it at that all year 'round. Cheers.
My pc is new,in July,it will be 1 year old. The environment is relatively dust free for various reasons. The computer is quite far from the walls. Also the ambient light never reaches the pc directly. @Surt Thanks for your advice. I would like to focus on the balanced plan - I also set 10% (default is 5%) max power 80%. I will check when the temperatures are higher the performance with this plan I have set,for now I will leave the performance plan. The pc has 2 louvers at the bottom and a larger one at the top. So probably first I will try if the temperatures, in the summer months, were to rise a lot (I use HWMonitor portable) to see if a fan on the side of the PC I solve, otherwise I will invent something
The power plans aren't going to affect temps nearly as much as your general usage. If you're not overclocking and/or over-volting you will likely never have an issue if your cooler is functioning properly. I'm currently doing both of those on my desktop that I built in 2011 and it is still fine. Any stock setup should not be an issue. I've run CPUs for extended times at more than 70c (gaming) and have never fried one. It will be outdated before it fails. I'm sure there are some that would argue but in 25 years of building PCs I have never killed RAM or a CPU. I have purchased some that were dead out of the box.
@Kees1958 Thank you for pointing out your trick. Unfortunately, the type of my pc (all in one) does not allow it.
@Surt I cannot use Open Hardware Monitor because this type of software does not allow viewing fan speed + temperatures from Standard Account but only from Administrator. I use the change to the "Validate Admin Code Signatures" registry key but I cannot use Open Hardware Monitor because it is not signed.
My experience shows if your cooling is adequate (cpu, case), the ambient temp won't matter too much. As a rule of thumb, in the worst case, for every 5deg out, about 1deg in. My comp room temp fluctuates between 23 to about 33, the internals stay steady at about 40deg idle and about 65deg at high load. The major impact on cpu temp is the cpu load, and overall case temp, the gpu load. Mrk
Afaik every newer cpu should start to throttle if it gets into critical temperature regions. Cpu gets to hot > runs with less clockspeed till it gets cooler (and to a safe temp)
Yep. This started a couple of decades ago when AMD CPUS used to catch fire if the heatsink fell off. Anything made in the last 20 years should be safe.
Good point. When I stated previously that I used to run mine at over 70C the max on that one was 95C. If your max is 70C you should not let it get that hot.
Thank you all for the advices. Today at 2 p.m. the outside temperature in the shade at my digital thermometer was about 27.5°C. The temperature in the room where the pc is located 23.4°C. The temperatures inside the pc 43-50°C. However, in the 2 most critical summer months I will certainly use the W.10 energy-saving plan.
I personally would consider that acceptable. There are some that wouldn't but it's not going to fail any time soon if ever running at those temps.
The temperature inside the room will probably increase by at least 10-15°C during July/August. I will have to check the temperatures inside the pc then.
Wow. 23.4 + 15 C more? That would be about 38.4. That's over 100 F. I just feel bad for you for that. You probably still won't fry the CPU but you might start getting malfunctions from those temps. Some of the other chips in your PC won't like that. The last time I used a laptop in a room anywhere near those temps I started getting red dots on the screen and then it crashed. It ran ok after it cooled off but it is still difficult to run at those temps. If you have the option to point a fan at it then at least you can move the air around rather than getting hot spots of stale air.
With the laptop I used to use a base with 5 fans + in case also an an additional fan. With this all-in-one pc is I will only use the fan. My house is near a military airport. The room insulation shelters from noise but unfortunately there is a price to pay in summer. I still hope that the temperature in the room will not exceed 35°C.
The CPU (lowest priority) is busy converting a video. Room temperature 24.9°C I also started an external fan near the pc. I probably won't be able to do this in the middle of summer.
That's normal. I have nearly the same temps for years. Don't worry, nothing it's gonna happen. ------ AMD FX-6100: Max. Operating Temperature (Tjmax)= 70°C https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/fx-6100#product-specs
