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Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Stigg, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. myk1

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    hello...by the way.. With IFW/IFD how do I convert my physical machine to a virtual one? (with oracle VMvirtualbox) ?? thanks
     
  2. Brian K

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    You can use copyp2v.tbs

    It's in C:\Program Files (x86)\TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite\TeraByte OSD Tool Suite Pro\scripts
     
  3. pb1

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    I have mentioned before that IFW could not restore a backup and then some said that i must had done something wrong because they have never experienced that over years of usage. Well, here is what happened, then, and recently.

    By installing a new Os over the existing one, a Os that repartitions the existing partitions, it can not, according to my experience, repartition things back to how it was originally when trying to restore. E.g; the original set up has 4 partitions, the boot, reserved, C: and recovery partition. In that order

    The installation on top of that adjusted C:, repartitioned it, so that it became like this: recovery, boot, reserved and C:. Thats it. The former recovery where left dead and untouched.

    When trying to "go back", IFW came up with an error message saying different things. I could not restore.
    So i used the backup made with Macrium Reflect, MR restored and repartitioned back without any problem.

    Both thoose 2 backups where done just before the mentioned installation and the restores where done with a usb with rec.environment on it.

    So, why could not IFW restore?


    I really want to be able to trust IFW just as much as i trust MR, because then i can switch backup program fully, now i have to use both.
     
  4. Brian K

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    pb1,

    If I wanted to restore an image to a drive that had different partitions from the partitions in the image, I wouldn't go ahead. I'd delete all partitions on the drive and restore the image to the blank drive. Never fails with any imaging software.
     
  5. pb1

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    Ok, well that sounds very basic and reliable.
    How would you go about it in my example in my former post? Be specific and detailed please.
     
  6. myk1

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    Thks
    Does it work with Oracle products (=VM Virtual box) ?
     
  7. Brian K

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    myk1,

    This is the only tutorial I could find...

    https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/howto/

    See Example : Virtual Machine Creation
    Create a Virtual Machine from a Physical Machine using CopyP2V (video)

    I've seen Virtual Box posts in the TeraByte forum but its been years since I've used VMs.
     
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  8. Brian K

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    pb1,

    I assume you have created an Entire Drive IFW backup image. This will be the image to restore.

    IFW will only restore an image if the target drive partitions match the partitions in the image. Hence, delete the partitions using your favourite method. It can be done in TBWinRE.
    In the TBILauncher, Scripts, TeraByte Explorer, Partition manager.
    Select a partition, press Delete on the keyboard, etc
    Select another partition, press Delete on the keyboard, etc etc

    When all partitions have been deleted from the target drive, close TeraByte Explorer by pressing ESC.
    Open IFW from the TBILauncher, run through your restore screens, on the Select the drive or partition(s) to restore screen, select HD - Partial. This will select all partitions.
    Restore to the Target Drive (not the Free Space on the Target drive)
    You are doing a multi-partition restore.
     
  9. Brian K

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    Another way to delete the partitions, possibly simpler than above.

    In IFW, on the Select where to restore the partition(s): screen
    For the Target drive, right click a partition, click Delete, Yes
    Do the same for the remaining partitions
    On the same screen, select the Target drive (not the Free Space), Next, etc
     
  10. pb1

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    Thank you Mr Brian K!

    The above was the way i did it, worked perfectly. Very fast and conveniant, simple. Now i can trust it a bit more since i know how to restore when the partitions are changed.
    When doing and restoring clones, or copys as the call it, is it as reliable and fast when doing thoose operations to?
     
  11. Brian K

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    Ccpies work fine. If copying an OS to another drive, remember to "Change GUID". This avoids signature clashes.
    Having identical OS in a system requires a boot manager to control booting. BootIt is excellent. There is a MBR and a UEFI version.
     
  12. pb1

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    But if i am only going to copy a certain Pc with 1 Os on it and later on restore that copy to the same Pc, do i still need BootIt or such?
     
  13. myk1

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    Thanks.
    Hmm..I'm going to have a look.
    edit: on TBforum, they have said that it is possible. It does not seem easy. I am going to try again.
     
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  14. Brian K

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    I misunderstood your question about Copy. This is TeraByte Unlimited "Copy".

    Copy is a single stage process where data is copied directly from a partition(s) to another partition(s).
    Image/Restore is a two stage process. You create an image before the data is copied to a target partition.
    Both achieve the same result but Copy takes half the time. (One stage) I use Copy for creating further OS partitions for multi-booting. BootIt UEFI Copy has an advantage over IFW Copy in that it also creates Booting Files in the ESP and creates a Boot Item in the Boot Menu.
     
  15. pb1

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    Ok, i see. Can be handy when moving the recovery partition.

    I have to test this copying feature a bit more to see if it partitions at the same time it copies to another disc, or are capable of repartitioning. Has cloning functionality. But it sounds, when you say what you do, that it is just a simple copying feature. If so, then IFW is missing a clone feature?!

    Just to be clear, the "GUID" item mentioned before, should be - ticked, filled? Default is empty, blank.
     
  16. Brian K

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    Copy or Clone is the same item. TeraByte Unlimited prefers the "Copy" name.
    You can Copy (Clone) single or multiple partitions or entire drives.

    You only need to select this option if you are Copying an OS partition to another drive and you intend to leave both drives in the computer. If you don't change the GUID then Windows will take that drive Offline.

    When upgrading to a larger drive (eg small to a larger SSD) you can do an Entire drive Copy. You should remove the old drive from the computer before the first boot from the new drive.

    You can Copy a partition to Free Space or to a partition.
     
  17. Brian K

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    Let's say you have a 6000 MB partition. (actual figures from my computer)
    It contains 4120 MB of data
    Free space is 1280 MB
    That data is spread over 5130 MB. This is the sector spread. The sectors in use. (GiB to Restore)

    When you come to restore an image of that partition or if you want to Copy that partition, a minimum target space of 5130 MB is required.

    In IFW, click Backup, Full, highlight any partition but don't put a tick in the box.
    Click Information
    That's where I got the above data
     
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  18. pb1

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    I see.
    Thank you for all your help, support actually. I owe you.

    I hope your eyesight survived that lager endeavour of yours?
     
  19. Brian K

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    Vision is OK now but just recovered from a week of Covid.
     
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    Hope you get fully recovered soon.
     
  21. Brian K

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    Thanks. I had nasty flu like symptoms on day one and gradually resolving fatigue over the following week. Went for a gentle run today. Seems OK.
    Had a lager last night and didn't like it. That's bad.
     
  22. oliverjia

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    Hi man, hope you taste will also recover soon lol
     
  23. Hadron

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    I downloaded the latest version 3.52a.
    What does the 'a' signify in this version?

    TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite v3.52a.png
     
  24. Brian K

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    Possibly a typo. The last version was 3.51a.

    It installs as 3.52.
     
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  25. Hadron

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    You may be right about a typo, Brian.

    Did 3.51a install with 3.51a in the version number?
    It was a hotfix that didn't affect English installations. I didn't bother installing it.
     
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