AV-Comparatives: Consumer Real-World Protection Test Factsheet Feb-Mar 2022

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Minimalist, Apr 15, 2022.

  1. Minimalist

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    Norton and Trend Micro were great until the false positives. Some folks don't care but I still consider it a major problem.
     
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    thanks, @Minimalist .
    well done, kaspersky and avira. :thumb:
     
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    It is a total problem and it is all that differentiates them in my book. I use Defender and it has very few FPs.
     
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    I do have to give them credit for improving on that over the years.
     
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    Yes, despite my dislike of the User Interface, I have to agree: Defender has been very quiet with respect to false positives, which can be so annoying, I want to uninstall/de-activate after only a couple of instances. :ninja:

    I expect more from Microsoft since there is potentially much more revenue and resources to invest into Defender than what you would have from a typical third party.
     
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    Andy's stuff, does not work on LTSC based windows 10.
     
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    + 1.
     
  11. Bunkhouse Buck

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    100%. There is often significant variance in results that cannot explained by standard deviation alone. Methodology, selected malware, possible bias and other variables may account for contradictory results. Tests for me have always been a guide and I have found in my own testing significantly different results in my real-world results from testers.

    "A grain of salt is right."
     
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    I believe AV-Comparative's tests are statistically valid and professionally done. I take them straight with no chaser. :-*
     
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    There are so many variables, age of samples, type of samples, AV settings, classification of results, there is statistically no way that you can use 1 test to determine how effective protection any AV provides. You need to take the results from a year or more, average them and still you may not get a full picture. A one shot test result should be considered for "entertainment purposes" only.
     
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    -2.

    I trust AV-Comparatives but I take anything AV-TEST posts with a grain of salt. All their AVs almost get a 6/6 rating for performance, LOL. Paid shills
     
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    My +1 wasn't specific to this test, but virtually all AV tests in general. Too many variables!
     
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    +1, -1....

    2x^2 - 3xy + 4y^2 + 6x - 3y - 4 / 0x - 1/23 (-39 - 40 sqrt(2) -3/23 (2 + 50) ......

    Follow the money.....
     
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    Cat.gif

    :D
     
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    And some of the variables may not be disclosed and/or structured to create a certain known outcome. There are simply many conflicts of interest in business because at the end of the day- its all about the money.
     
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    Eset has not a realy good score in these tests
     
  20. Minimalist

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    If you check year 2020 results you would see that it was excellent. They were 2nd (right after Kaspersky) in 2020 summary report: https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/summary-report-2020/
    So the question remains: what was different that year comparing to 2021 and so far 2022?
     
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    What tests are you looking at? AV Comparatives has solid results for ESET.
     
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    ESET is more than fine, actually it is one of the very few antivirus that is worth of buying.

    About the test, 98.9% blocked with zero false positives and some are thinking that it is bad? Really?

    You are much more likely to face a false positive that will destroy your system than a zero-day malware.
     
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    Agreed.
     
  24. Bunkhouse Buck

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    Totally correct. FPs can destroy your rig on a far greater probability scale than any malware. Testers should stress this far more than they do in my view. Sure you can stop attacks (maybe) but at the expense of dozens of FPs when often a novice user does not know what to do.
     
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    Hence, why white-listing apps and HIPS are ultimately are better off in the hands of more advanced users. (Hmm... looky here at all these alerts. Guess I'll block this, this, and this. Reboot. OMFG. :eek:)
     
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