Terabyte Simple Operation

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  1. beethoven

    beethoven Registered Member

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    I have always used advanced operations with Terabyte but a friend testing the program just used simple and after having done the image was not sure where the image file had ended. I guided him over the phone to look for the TBI file in the root directory but he was unclear on whether the file was full image or incremental. Apparently there was already an older image file on the backup drive.

    Looking at the manual and reading the description for simple operations it says that for Ifw in simple mode you may need to choose which physical drive the image should go to - everything else is automatic. I tested that on my machine and yes, only had to choose source and destination and no other options.

    So am I right in assuming that in simple only full images are being done?
     
  2. Brian K

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    beethoven,

    The default is an Entire Disk backup, then 6 incrementals, then an Entire Disk backup, then 6 incrementals, etc. The number of incrementals can be changed from 6.

    Backups are saved to a store on the destination drive (e.g. E:\TeraByte_TBI_Backups). The storage area is automatically maintained and files are deleted as needed when it runs out of free space.

    Simple Operations mode, backup/restore, is very easy to use.
     
  3. beethoven

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    that's very easy indeed - just wondering what happens if you use a external backup drive and have image from home computer done and then use the same backup drive and image your laptop or another pc. Will they be stored distinct and the chains not intermingled?
     
  4. Brian K

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    Interesting test. If you only have one partition on the external HD, backups from the second computer delete the backups from the first computer.

    If you have two partitions on the external HD, no problems.
     
  5. beethoven

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    That's a bit living dangerously - most of my backup drives only have one partition. I then create folders for special purposes, so that I can have an images of different sources on the backup drive. Then again, I am not using simple mode for myself, that's why
    I never realised this issue before. Thanks Brian, I will pass on this info to my friend.
     
  6. Brian K

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    I know you have the tools to create as many partitions as you like. People using Simple Operations Mode might feel uncomfortable creating extra partitions on their external HDs. Perhaps a second external HD could be considered if two computers needed to be backed up. But this is messy.
     
  7. Brian K

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    My mistake. I did a bad test. Nothing was deleted.

    Simple Operations mode can use a single external HD (with one partition) to receive backups from multiple computers. Backups from computer A are in one folder. Backups from computer B are in another folder. Backups from computer C are in another folder, etc.

    Simple Operations mode is designed so you don't have to look in these folders. Backups and restores are handled from the GUI.
     
  8. beethoven

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    Brian, that's good news :thumb:
     
  9. Brian K

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    Simple Operations mode does Entire disk backup/restore. You can restore a single partition if you desire, but it's not a Simple Mode procedure. Here is an example using Image for UEFI...

    Boot to BIU.
    Click Disk Imaging
    Settings
    Make sure there is no tick in Simple Operations
    OK
    dot in restore, Next
    Select window, put dot in Normal (never use Automatic)
    Select File Access Method window, File (Direct)
    Select Drive Interface window, Physical Drive
    Select File Drive window, select the Hard Drive containing the backup image
    Select File Location window, select the partition containing the backup image
    Select the backup file to restore window, select TeraByte_TBI_Backups
    (if Next doesn't work press Enter on the keyboard)
    select and browse the folders until you get to the .tbi file, select it (it's about 4 or 5 folders deep)
    Next or Enter
    In the Select Item to Process window, put a tick in the desired partition (it is the image of that partition)
    Select Drive Interface window, select Physical Drive
    Select Target Drive window, select the Hard Drive you want to restore to
    Select Restore Location window, select the relevant partition that you want restored
    Warning, select Yes (all the data in that partition will be over written)
    Ignore the Options and other fields
    click Start
     
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    @Brian K - Not Terabyte per say atm but is it ok to wipe a HDD and NOT format it before applying a full restore of the whole disk?

    Or after a zero wipe and when complete is it routine to use any program or windows to at least format a fresh wiped disk drive with NTFS to make a restore better
     
  11. Brian K

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    Sure. You don't need a partition to restore into. You can restore to unallocated free space.

    You get the same restore result if you restore to a partition or restore to free space.

    When I use a new blank HD I never create a formatted partition before restoring an image. The restore is always to free space.
     
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    I been under some impression (not a backup brain like most when it comes to this) that after wiping and observing only unallocated space that it was necessary to at least format it to NTFS. Obviously been under that impression.

    So in essence the restore program be it Terabyte for windows, Macrium Reflect, and even DS perform or return said backup image to unallocated space and so no need after a full wipe of a hard drive to format. Those image programs restore fine and use NTFS already backed up to restore fine that way.

    Man i really appreciate that info. I been in the habit as a routine of formatting NTFS under some odd impression it was needed.
     
  13. Brian K

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    Think of it this way. Say you restore a Win10 partition image to a FAT32 partition. The partition is deleted as part of the restore process and the resulting partition is NTFS. The same applies if restoring to a NTFS partition. So your work in creating that partition was a waste of time.
     
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    Man you are such a great help and sharp consultant with these matters. What is going on is that i am reupping what is been a problem 8.1 disk. The only alternative left for me was to do a full zero out wipe and then afterwards overlay a restore image to the same size disk. With that hardware HDD swept with a software wiper i want to be sure the restore won't encounter or stumble on the previous partition. Restore and rejuvenate it back to working stable state.

    I can't thank you enough.
     
  15. Brian K

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    One other point. I don't use Wipe. I just delete a partition.

    Deleting a partition just removes it's entry from the partition table. The data is still in the former "partition". I use delete partition with Clear boot sector. The boot sector is the first sector in the partition. If you clear the boot sector, the partition can't be undeleted but the data is "still there". Even so, for my purposes, I don't use Wipe.
     
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    I see. Is that sufficient enough for a drive (this one had nor been online sinxe 201:cool: which was throwing hard explorer errors and suspending prompts that when you X to close explorer restarted but no program would launch without it repeating error after error again with no remedy. That alone prompted that i wipe the drive completely to ensure a clean restore after such chaotic behavior experienced.
     
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    I don't believe Wipe would make any difference to your situation. A clean install or an image restore wouldn't be using any of your bad data.
     
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