Kaspersky missing from large AV tests

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Mover, Mar 7, 2021.

  1. Mover

    Mover Registered Member

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    I've recently noticed that Kaspersky is no longer participating in some reputable AV testing groups.

    For instance, Kaspersky is no longer taking part in tests performed by MRG Effitas, Mitre Attack evaluations, etc.

    Does anyone know why ?
     
  2. Floyd 57

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    Just gonna bump this here cuz Im curious so maybe more people will see it
     
  3. m0unds

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    i reckon it probably has something to do with the reason other vendors aren't participating - lots of $$$, limited benefit
     
  4. Floyd 57

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    athis point kaspersky is very established so it's kinda like, they've always been at or near the top of the test. If they ever let down the gas pedal, they will look inferior. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose, on top of having to pay money for testing I think? Still doesn't make much sense
     
  5. ance

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    I guess that's because Europe and USA don't use Sputnik ... just my 2 cents. :D
     
  6. m0unds

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    sure, but i think the labs themselves are of limited benefit to the primary users of most av products - regular old consumers.
     
  7. Minimalist

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    It's also interesting that they are not included in Virus Bulletin testing, which conducts AFAIK more like a basic only test. Quite a few big names are missing there: https://www.virusbulletin.com/testing/vendors/active/vb100-antimalware
    Also interesting to see ESET doesn't participate there any more too. A while ago they were proud of being a vendor with most VB100 awards.
     
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  8. IBK

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    Regarding Kaspersky, I found this information about MITRE in the recently released Gartner report: "Kaspersky products were involuntarily not represented in the last MITRE ATT&CK evaluations (Enterprise 2020 and ICS 2020 evaluations). During the finalization stage of the Enterprise 2020 evaluation, Kaspersky says MITRE notified it that its participation had been discontinued. MITRE has not publicly explained why."
     
  9. Floyd 57

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    AVs are outdated anyway. They're for basic users who don't know what they are doing. People with knowledge can deploy more advanced solutions that might required manual configuration and whatnot.
     
  10. Minimalist

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    Yes sure. Only problem is that 95%+ of PC users don't have knowledge to take care of their security. So they leave concerns about security to AV vendors.
     
  11. A_mouse

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    They are in the last tests on AV-Comparatives and AV-Test, however they are kinda stale.
    If institutions are dropping them without explanation, we can probably assume coercion from certain Governments.

    Not very useful statement when the vast majority of users don't have the knowledge and never will.
    Old malware doesn't just disappear once discovered. It lingers and festers in all corners of the web, waiting for people to assume they are safe.
    Stuxnet still won't die because there are many little oasis of vulnerable PCs dotted around the desert.
     
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