WiseVector Stop-X

Because some people, including myself, find WD to be too heavy at times. In addition to that, WiseVector can show an alert asking what action you want to take when it detects threats, instead of auto quarantining them. I only use antiviruses which let you disable auto quarantine.

If everyone used WD, it would lead to the death of third party AVs, which in my opinion would be a real tragedy, because choice is a good thing.

 

Amen to that.

 

1. Please post all your valid reasons to be suspicious here. We can discuss it openly and honestly. Or you can send WVSX to an authority or a professional third party for analysis or test to validate your suspicions.
2. From what you posted, it is assumed that once an AV is certified, it can be fully trusted. But unfortunately, not all certified AV is reliable, for example, A***t!

 

Hi, while I fully agree with you that not all certified AV are reliable, I don’t think as a developer, it is a good idea to mention names.

 

Thanks! Already edited.

 

A***t? Let me guess...

 

This should be reworded to be "not all certified AVs are trustworthy." Besides the widely debated Kaspersky issue, there is the AV lab test cheating incidents of Chinese AV vendors: https://www.csoonline.com/article/2...vendor-caught-cheating-on-industry-tests.html .

 

Well, I want my AV to be both reliable and trustworthy.

 

Then there is the infamous Anvisoft incident whose APT41 creators were indicted by the U.S. government last year: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/09/chinese-antivirus-firm-was-part-of-apt41-supply-chain-attack/ . The hideous thing about this incident was Anvisoft was originally whitelisted by all other AV vendors.

 

1. WD is designed for average users, so being stable and easy to use takes priority over other features. For example, by our observing, WD has no other valid protection layers against DLL Sideloading attack besides static scanning.
2. WD is the NO.1 target for cyber attackers to bypass, since it has the largest number of users around the world.
3. If there is only WD, it will become much easier for malware writers to perform their malicious purpose, since they just need to find a way to bypass WD.
4. WD has some custom settings which is important for system administrators, but there is potential insecurity, since lots of command-line tools (eg. powershell) can be used to add exclusion folder or file extension on the WD, those command-line tools can be abused by Trojan as well. WVSX now can detect and automatically remediate malware that takes advantage of this point. In the next release, there will be choices for users to take action for this behavior. Please refer to the screenshot below.
https://ibb.co/MD9rxb5

 

The examples you gave have nothing to do with WVSX. You can start a new thread to discuss security software issues.
Frankly, you keep mentioning that there are problems with Chinese software, the implication is unfair.
Suppose you are selling hot dogs and a person puts up a sign next to you saying that there are food safety problems with hot dogs produced in this area. But you know your hot dogs are safe. What's your feeling?

 

Good point.
So WVSX can run side by side with WD?

 

Hi @ WiseVector Stop X

"Frankly, you keep mentioning that there are problems with Chinese software, the implication is unfair." taken from post 1287.

I am not here to defend itman, but I will defend his right to express his views about Chinese software and or any other countries products and business practices.

Huawei was removed as a Government supplier of telephone equipment and software in the UK, as I believe also in the USA because the authorities, amongst many reasons believed there may be a "back door" in Huawei's equipment/software. This may be be grossly unfair on WiseVector, but unfortunately in the western world Chinese business practices are viewed with scepticism. China is a victim of it's own success and questionable practices.

I simply say this, on matters of security how can you afford not to be "belt and braces". I stopped using WiseVector sometime ago, not because it is NOT a good product or even revolutionary, but because I cannot be sure.

Everyone knows the limitations of Windows Defender, you so eloquently pointed them out in post 1288, what we don't know yet are the limitations of your product!

Ultimately, time will tell.

Terry

 

From the time WiseVector has been introduce to this forum the guy who has been pushing it has been given a very hard time even with harsh words he has remain humble, helpful even patient, so far he isn't guilty of any wrong doing yet certain people here, has been probing, picking
insinuating or inciting some sort of wrong doing, can people just let this man do what he came to do in peace until he's guilty of something.
I personally don't like Avast but you will never catch me on another Avast thread commenting on anything whether bad or good because i feel people
has the right to choose what they want regardless of how i feel about a product or not, I even see people came on this thread and talk about
Eset on numerous occasions and it was (A) ok, let someone return that same energy talking about WV on an Eset thread that will surely be a
problem, I'm not against people sharing they views once it is respectful, just and right and they shall remember do unto others as you'll have them do unto you easy. The guy pushing WX I wish you all the best in your endeavors but my dear friend buy some shocks cause I can tell
your road is about to become riddle with potholes and stumbling blocks all of us get weak at some point but please stay strong, so far you have remain humble I thank you for that and my respect for you has grown vastly, I know you have a good thing going just stay committed.
The best path towards unity is empathy not opinions on what you find hard or easy to believe.

 

I also don't believe in bashing a product because of the country it came from. Bash it for its protection effectiveness or bugs, not its country of origin.

 

Anti-Asian sentiment polluting the forum/s. If it's speculation that's driving some of these comments, why doesn't one err on the side of the benefit of the doubt and give the rest of us who enjoy watching this software (WiseVector) a break?

Thanks.

 

It's OK to run Windows Defender together with WiseVector StopX. But once Windows Defender detects a suspicious file, the file will be locked by Windows Defender and other AV cannot access to it, so there might be a misunderstanding that WiseVector StopX does nothing when threats occur.

 

Everyone has the right to express their views, but too much discussion of this issue in this thread will cause disturbance to the users of WVSX. Please return our seats to the upright position to discuss WVSX and the techniques related.

I believe there is no perfect product, that's why several users choose more than one security software according to their own needs. WVSX is keeping improved to get close to be perfect. Yes, time will tell.

 

@bellgamin @roger_m
Thanks for your support!

@Nitty Kutchie @digmor crusher @plat1098
Rational discourse is as soothing as fresh air. Thank you.

 

@WiseVector -- You have many here who have confidence in your AV and who are rooting for its continued development and success. In every forum there are always those who will hold contrary opinions no matter WHAT is being discussed.

The Wilders forum has very competent, fair-minded Moderators who will allow friendly give & take discussions -- that's what a forum is all about: letting people have free discussions and learn from each other. However, it has been my personal experience (I'm no angel) that the Moderators will step in, if & when any discussion goes too far over the line of friendly, helpful, & productive discussions.

Most members of this forum are quite able to see the right & wrong of what's being posted. I suggest you avoid arguments, trust the Moderators to do their job, & just give answers to normal user questions, as you have been doing.

However, if anyone feels a post is "over the line" please note that every post has a "Report" button located at the lower left side of that post. Click that button to anonymously contact the Moderators as deemed necessary.

 

I'm sure wisevector has had a lot of work put into it it might work great or it might not work so well.

But it's based in china. Now of course, I use a whitelisting application made in Singapore with servers based in Singapore.

But SecureAge charges money for what they offer and the free version of their product up until...2019? 2018? somewhere around there? required the user to give them free advertising to extend the time on the free license. So you still kind of had to pay for it. But now the free version is very limited and there's two tiers of the paid version.

wisevector is free with no ads, or any obvious thing in plain sight happening that would either save them money or make them money and it's based in china. Therefore I don't trust it on the suspicion of what kind of data they're collecting on the user's system.

 

@bellgamin
Highly appreciate for the heads up!

 

Here is our privacy policy. The paid version will be released within two months.

 

that's exactly my line of reasoning, thanks gor saying that. By installing niche product you could potentially be more secure since less exploits were invented for it. If you have adobe, WD, Office you are exposed x times more, that's it, no reason denying what is obvious. Every hacker in the world will want to bypass WD to get his feet wet, to do what is useful.

Can't wait for your "pro" edition, you made the av that I dreamed about

 

Glad to see you have the same view with me. Thanks!
We are trying our best to get the "pro" edition released as scheduled!