which encrypted/secure messaging app(s) do you use and why?

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which encrypted/secure messaging app(s) do you use?

  1. cyphr

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  2. dust

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  3. facebook messenger

    4 vote(s)
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  4. imessage

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  5. riot

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  6. signal

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  7. silence

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  8. silent phone

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  9. surespot

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  10. telegram

    4 vote(s)
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  11. threema

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  12. whatsapp

    12 vote(s)
    29.3%
  13. wickr me

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  14. wickr pro

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  15. wire

    2 vote(s)
    4.9%
  16. other (please specify)

    6 vote(s)
    14.6%
  17. none (exclusive to only buddel) :rolleyes:

    11 vote(s)
    26.8%
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  1. longshots

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    Oops, sorry about the delay, but when you live life in the slow lane some things tend to get away from you.
    The biggy - Session is a cross-platform, anonymous and decentralized messaging application. You don't need a phone number or email address to make an account.
    https://itsfoss.com/session-messenger/
    And, of course, there are many comparisons on line which may raise an issue that is irrelevant to me but important to you.
     
  2. imdb

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    thanks, shots. :thumb:
     
  3. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    I have to say I'm not familiar with most of the options listed here :)
    And when people write Messenger, my instinctual response is MSN Messenger, really.
    Mrk
     
  4. imdb

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    ha, so you don't make voice/video calls then?
     
  5. reasonablePrivacy

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    Or records a video to file and sents it over SMB or e-mail :p Just kidding.

    I recently used Google Duo which is end-to-end encrypted, but probably does not implement perfect forward secrecy and feeds some metadata about me to Google systems. It is far from perfect from privacy perspective, but it was convenient for my non-tech-savy friend.
     
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  6. imdb

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    :Dthat's right, duo doesn't support pfs and does collect metadata. but it is pretty convenient for noobs as you noted though.
     
  7. Mrkvonic

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    I do. Why is the conclusion of "not familiar with most" = not making voice/video calls?
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  8. reasonablePrivacy

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    So what do you use to make video call or video conference?
     
  9. imdb

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    the conclusion was drawn from the second part of your post, not the first.

     
  10. Mrkvonic

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    Well if you remember that thing, I think it makes for a somewhat funny/nostalgic post. I do video calls occasionally, mostly using what the other party does, because non-techies are set in their ways. So if someone wants Skype, they get Skype. If they want Telegram, they get Telegram, and so forth. But mostly nothing, because I have no friends ... sad potato ... (this is also meant to be funny, for the record).

    Mrk
     
  11. imdb

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    i see. i thought skype was dead.
     
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    signal and telegram!
     
  13. Alec

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    I voted... iMessage (because it is what I generally do use), Facebook Messenger (because some people force me to use it, ugh, does it even count as an encrypted/secure messaging app... I honestly do not know :eek:), and Signal (because it is aspiration-ally what I would use if I could get others to use it).
     
  14. digmor crusher

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    Signal, for texts only, don't do video calls.
     
  15. hawki

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    "Can The FBI Hack Into Private Signal Messages On A Locked iPhone? Evidence Indicates Yes

    The FBI appears to have a tool that can access Signal messages, even if a device is locked...

    Court documents obtained by Forbes...indicate the FBI has a way of accessing Signal texts even if they’re behind the lockscreen of an iPhone..."

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomas...phone-evidence-indicates-yes/?sh=561980706624
     
  16. reasonablePrivacy

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    Nothing new. It is long known that some intelligence and law enforcement agencies have tools to break in to locked iPhones and Android smartphones and elevate to root privileges. With that level of control of the device any app can "be broken". It is best to avoid device seizure by FBI or at least turn off smartphone before they get their hands on it.
     
  17. sdmod

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    Court Docs Show FBI Can Intercept Encrypted Messages From Deep State-Backed ‘Signal’ App



    GrayKey and Cellebrite are the tools
     
  18. imdb

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    whoa, easy there. deep state-backed? you got any proof for that?
     
  19. longshots

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    Show me the link for that please.
    Big difference between "access" Signal messages on a device and "intercept".

    And, on a different note, can someone explain to me why people keep [encrypted] messages on their phone?
    I delete all of mine as soon as I've read them.
     
  20. imdb

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    yeah, that too. @sdmod
     
  21. chrisretusn

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    Of that list, I have only heard of four of them. Signal, Telegram (recently a relative asked me to join) , WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger. Those last three I consider to be social media apps. I would never use the last two this purpose, they are book Facebook connected. That said I do have Facebook and Facebook Messenger accounts.

    Like the sad potato mentioned above, I too have no friends. ;)
     
  22. reasonablePrivacy

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    IMHO WhatsApp is an instant messenger.
     
  23. imdb

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    messenger is an im app too.
     
  24. chrisretusn

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    App Features:
    Let’s message, call, send videos, documents, and voice messages
    Users can enjoy group chats
    Can share your location, exchange contacts,
    Set custom wallpapers and notification sounds etc.
    Consists of a rich collection of expressive stickers

    Sounds like a social media app to me. That and it's owned by Facebook.
     
  25. reasonablePrivacy

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    For me text messages, voice messages (almost like voicemail in "traditional" phone network i.e. GSM), sending photos to selected person, audio calls, video calls, video conference/group call (up to 8 participants) are all features of modern instant messaging app. Intent and number of people you send messages to are key things. When you are sending photo do you want to keep that just between you and me (or other small number of selected people) or you want a few million people to see it (more is better). First is a private message on instant messaging app, second is a social media post.
    When it comes text groups participant number limit is quite high (IIUC 256 participants), but it is still far less than ordinary social media content which may not have any limits.
     
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