The unofficial Shadow Defender Support Thread.

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Cutting_Edgetech, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. TerryWood

    TerryWood Registered Member

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    Hi @sdmod

    Where can I download version 1.4.0.519

    The shadow defender site appears to be down today?

    Thank you

    Terry
     
  2. Moose World

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    @Osaban,

    "I guess it is a matter of luck, or SD may conflict with other programs, this is one of the reasons I keep my security to a minimum and backup daily with Macrium."

    I have the following:

    > Kaspersky Secure Cloud (Latest)
    > Voodoo Shield (latest version)
    > SandBoxie (Old Version)
    > Yandex Browser (latest)
    > Puffin Browser (Latest)
    > HiBit Uninstaller (lastest)

    Thinking it maybe SandBoxie which out of date.....
    Not sure!
     
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  3. stapp

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    Site looks to be back up now
     
  4. TerryWood

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    Hi Stapp

    Thanks you're right

    Unfortunately, Shadow Defender 1.4.0.519 isn't listed, so anyone who can help me please?

    Thanks

    Terry
     
  5. Pliskin

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  6. Osaban

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    I used Sandboxie with Shadow Defender for many years without any problems. Looking at your list of programs, the most likely issue (if any) would come from Woodoo Shield which is an anti-executable. Try to disable it when you install SD...
     
  7. TerryWood

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    Hi @ SD Support

    Got it thanks to Pliskin and Quassar

    Terry
     
  8. Moose World

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    @Osaban,

    I did not have VoodooShield install when, I tried Shadow Defender,umm.....
     
  9. Osaban

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    Your information is too erratic to have an idea of what's going on. Is it definitely fast startup causing the blue screen? Have you tried an older version of SD? What operating system are you using? Is the hard disk of your computer working properly?
     
  10. Moose World

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    @Osaban ,

    ”Your information is too erratic to have an idea of what's going on. N.A.
    Is it definitely fast startup causing the blue screen? Correct....agree....yes....
    Have you tried an older version of SD? No
    What operating system are you using? Latest Windows OS.
    Is the hard disk of your computer working.....Yes

    I truly your input and thoughts. With your feedback, causing me to
    look things differently, and with a different perspective.

    Always the best,

    Moose
     
  11. sdmod

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    @TerryWood Sorry for delay

    I have been away from the forum for a short time.
    I have private messaged you.

    Patrick


     
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  12. ichito

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    @Moose World
    You have listed Kaspersky SC and I think it can be source of SD issue...KSC probably interferes with SD driver that appears on disk only when SD enter SM (outside all folders on disk C) - it's file called diskpt0.sys. It's vital file because SD redirects all changes into it.
     
  13. EASTER

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    I've had my noggin out of the deep zone of Windows for quite some time at least until matters equalize a bit on my end, BUT my understanding (what's left of it) is that SD uses (as well as other deep ring0) upper or lower driver filter/file that almost always will conflict if either directly removed/deleted or another program either tries to occupy that position or something similar. Which understandably causes issues that can bluescreen or similar.

    As @ichito accurately makes some mention of as "vital" to SD proper functionings within the Windows systems.
     
  14. Moose World

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    @richito,

    Thank you!

    The only thing that, I am concern about is Ransomware and Keyloggers/Information Steelers.......
    more of the Ransomware than the Keyloggers/Information Steelers


    Moose
     
  15. sdmod

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    Shadow Defender only protects you to the extent, that everything on your pc that happens in a Shadow Mode session' on your computer, is gone from your pc, after you go out of Shadow Mode, unless you choose to 'commit' and save it to your everyday, working system.
    What it does not do is protect you from is any information you give away (or is taken) during the Shadow session about your unshadowed operating system or software that you use.
    I use an anti keylogger (Keyscrambler) for extra security and run an anti virus (Malwarebytes) and a Firewall inside all Shadow sessions to reduce in-session intrusion online, internal (info going out) and external (unwanted monitoring, enquiry or probing coming in) that might reveal anything about my real system and cause me problems once I have left the session.
    Yes it is a bit 'belt and braces' but it serves me well.

    NB In the past there were conflicts with Zemana Anti Logger and Shadow Defender. I'm not sure if that is currently the case.


    Patrick

     
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  16. Moose World

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    @sdmod

    Appreicate your thoughts......
    Does Shadow Defender protect your MBR ( Master Boot Records)?



    Moose
     
  17. pvsurfer

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    As Patrick indicated, SD does not include functionality to identify and prevent data theft (in or out of Shadow Mode); for that you need additional security. I use WiseVector StopX (freeware) and have found it complements SD extremely well for data-theft and ransomware protection (firewall outgoing-screening is also very effective protection against data theft). Finally, you definitely should be making backup images of your system (to an external drive) on a regular basis!
     
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  18. LoneWolf

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    Yes, it does.
     
  19. pvsurfer

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    Yes (as @LoneWolf stated), effective with build 519 all of Track 0 (which includes the MBR) is protected whenever the system volume is in Shadow Mode. And I believe effective with build 591 UEFI's boot partitions are also protected whenever the system volume is in Shadow Mode (thanks to @Wendi's request for that important functionality).
     
  20. Moose World

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    @pvsurfer, and @LoneWolf ,

    appreciate your insight..... and answers.

    Thank you,

    Moose
     
  21. ichito

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  22. Moose World

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    @ichito
    The reminder is worth mention from earlier.

    Thank you,

    Moose
     
  23. Izettso

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    I'm considering installing Shadow Defender, but I have a couple of questions for which I couldn't find an answer on the program's website:
    Firstly, does SD run in Windows 10?
    Secondly, as part of my daily routine I make automated backups using Macrium Reflect and GoodSync. The backups are either of my C drive (disk image or files) or other data that I have on an external disk. All backups are made to external disks. Could this continue to take place during the running of SD?
    Thirdly, how does the program handle Windows updates? Would I have to do anything special in order for Windows updates to be installed?
     
  24. Osaban

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    Hi there
    1) Definitely.
    2) I wouldn't recommend it. It is better to exit shadow mode (SD), backup, and reenter shadow mode (SD), it is really quick (that's what I do daily by the way).
    3) Windows updates require a mandatory reboot which would be be killed by rebooting out of shadow mode. It must be done in normal mode, not a hassle as it is performed once a month.
    Some people like to stay in shadow mode for days, I think it is healthier to reboot out of it every 3 hours to keep the system updated in real time, and to perform a daily backup.
     
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  25. Izettso

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    Thank you for your answers. The only irritation for me would be the scheduled backups that I do. I'll have to think how I may schedule them in a way that would spread them out over time, but without also having them run at the same time. Currently I have backups running at 9:00, 11:00, 19:00, 20:00, 21:00 22:00 and 23:00.
    An alternative approach may be to exclude the external drives where the backup destination is located, but this would probably weaken the security of my system.

    This idea came to me as I was writing the above! I know that with GoodSync I can run commands before and after a backup. Therefore, could I stop and start SD with a command? If so it would solve the problem. I haven't been able to find something similar for Macrium Reflect, but I didn't look too deeply into it.
     
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