TeraByte Product Release Thread

Hi froggie,
I will check it out eventually but at the moment I run some stress and surface tests on the disk and will take 4-5 days to complete them.
I do not trust disks with more than 2 platters and usually I have a 25~30% rate of failure/problematic new disks. (e.g. this is a replacement of the one I bought 3 weeks ago).

On the first one windows 7 and 10 would not allow me to format it as 4tb/mbr only as gpt. On this one before starting the tests I made a backup to review later if everything goes well.

here is the partition info from tb's partinfo

Code:

                            PARTINFG, Version 1.02
          Copyright (c) 2009,2013 TeraByte, Inc. All Rights Reseverd

                          Run Date: 2/8/2020 6:13 AM

===============================================================================
                 MBR Partition Information (HD2 - 0x7C5BA2CE)
                   (CHS: 1023/254/63)  (WCHS: 60800/255/63)
+====+====+=============+====+=============+=============+=============+
| 0: |  0 |    0   4  5 |  c | 1023 254 63 |         256 |   976751744 |
| 1: |  0 |    0   0  0 |  0 |    0   0  0 |           0 |           0 |
| 2: |  0 |    0   0  0 |  0 |    0   0  0 |           0 |           0 |
| 3: |  0 |    0   0  0 |  0 |    0   0  0 |           0 |           0 |
+====+====+=============+====+=============+=============+=============+
===============================================================================
                            BOOT SECTOR INFORMATION
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      File System ID: 0xC   LBA: 256  Total Sectors: 976751744   ID: 0x1
                                  Jump: EB 58 90 (EB 58 90)
                              OEM Name: MSDOS5.0 (MSDOS5.0)
                         Bytes Per Sec: 4096 (4096)
                         Sec Per Clust: 64 (64)
                           Res Sectors: 32 (32)
                              Num FATs: 2 (2)
                         Root Dir Ents: 0 (0)
                               Sectors: 0 (0)
                                 Media: 0xF8 (0xF8)
                          Secs Per FAT: 0 (0)
                         Sec Per Track: 63 (63)
                                 Heads: 255 (255)
                           Hidden Secs: 63 (63)
                          Huge Sectors: 976751744 (976751744)
                     Huge Secs Per FAT: 14903 (14903)
                                 Flags: 0x0 (0x0)
                               Version: 0 (0)
                        Root Dir Clust: 2 (2)
                           FS Info Sec: 1 (1)
                           FS Bkup Sec: 6 (6)
                              Reserved:  0  0  0  0  0  0
                             Drive Num: 0x0 (0x0)
                                   Res: 0x0 (0x0)
                              Boot Sig: 0x0 (0x0)
                                Vol ID: 0x3284E8C7 (0x3284E8C7)
                          Volume Label: NO NAME     (NO NAME    )
                               FS Type: FAT32    (FAT32   )
                             Boot Flag: 0xAA55 (0xAA55)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

and in case you want to check it I attached a tb image in a zip (remove the txt extention and extract it

 

Well, that's what you've got... an MBR-based AFT formatted disk. From what you've said, Windows won't (not can't) do an AFT/MBR format for you so some other tool did that for you.

The MBR info above clearly shows that it's an MBR initiated disk with 4K sectors (which is totally acceptable according to all available specifications). As a result, the total 4kB sector count is well below the MBR sector limit for max disk size, with the total storage available at 4tB. A disk of this type (MBR) can go up to 16tB in size.

With this disk connected to your Windows System, does Windows see the 4tB partition defined in the MBR (wondering if OS AFT DISCOVERY is working properly)?

 

Panagiotis,

A mate bought an 8 TB USB HD. The disk was 4Kn. He uses WinXP and he wanted 4 X 2 TB MBR partitions on the disk. NTFS partitions. This was done using BootIt.

 

Hi Panagiotis!

It freaks me out to see this... your disk mounts beautifully under Windows 10 showing a perfect 4tB FAT32 partition (I didn't think I'd ever see such a thing ). Windows clearly manages the MBR formatting and adjusts its block size to the Advanced Format 4kB discovered during DISCOVERY.

It won't format your disk as a MBR/AFT device because it just doesn't want you to use all that legacy stuff anymore... it wants GPT, BUT it still understands all the appropriate specifications.

It's still weird to see that FAT32 4tB disk mounted...

 

Yes, all the OSes Windows XP, 7, 10, Linux and mac see and access the disk fine. (I was curious so checked with all my systems)

As for what tool they used... no idea...MSDOS5's fdisk (on a virtual machine)?

 

Nice. I doubt that I'll leave it as mbr but was curious how it handles such disks.

 

Same reaction here. The first thing I did was checking the system manager to see if it was gpt or mbr.

ps. in case anyone is interested, the disk is this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intenso-2-5-Inch-Memory-External-Drive/dp/B01LZT2YEU
and has a western digital disk WD40NPZZ 8mb 5/10 platters/heads 120mb/s read/write.

 

I'm not surprised XP saw the disk... I would be surprised if it saw it at 4tB. I didn't think AFT support was even available at the time XP's support stopped. If it did, that info must have come from the MBR when it was written, although there's no place for that info in the MBR.

 

It saw it as 4tb.
As for the software they used to format the disk I suspect it is the WD Quick Formatter for usb drives, set to XP compatible mode (or something similar).
https://community.wd.com/t/new-external-hard-drive-that-works-with-windows-xp/221582/3
https://www.anandtech.com/show/2888
Another windows utility that should be able to do it is MBR4TB
https://www.aioboot.com/en/mbr4tb/

 

Hello,

TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite version 3.38 has been released.
Webpage - Downloads - TeraByte Unlimited User Community Forums

Image for Windows 3.38 - Downloads - Upgrade History

Image for DOS version 3.38 - Downloads - Upgrade History

Image for Linux version 3.38 - Downloads - Upgrade History

OSD Tool Suite version 1.98 - Downloads - Upgrade History

 

Hello,

A new version of the TeraByte BootIt Collection has been released:

BootIt Bare Metal version 1.65 - Downloads - Upgrade History

BootIt UEFI version 1.17 - Downloads - Upgrade History

 

I am currently in the process of setting up a new computer - previously I transferred via images but this time it's a new build - Win 10 Pro/ 64 bit - HP Z1 Workstation. After installing Windows and doing the final updates, installing some browsers and AV I wanted to take images of this "pristine" build. This worked fine with Macrium but wanting to give Terabyte another chance to become more than an occasional backup, I installed the latest trial version fully prepared to buy the full program. While the first images to an external drive went fine without issues (simple) I noticed once I put in a second SSD as a internal harddrive for data storage, I have problems. I like to have an internal
drive to store data but due to the limitations of the Z1 workstation, you only have space for two SSD (OS and secondary). What happens is that each time I try to do a full image onto the internal data drive F, the backup fails with the drive being disconnected. Once I reboot the drive shows again. This only happens for Image for Windows - Macrium does not have that issue. At the moment I am not sure if this is a software or hardware issue?

 

beethoven,

Does it only happen when you are Validating?

https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=151

See "Byte-for-Byte Validation Failure when using VSS"

See "Byte-for-Byte Validation Failure when using a SSD"

 

beethoven,

I'm setting up a new computer too. Started yesterday.

 

Hi Brian,
I normally don't watch the process, so only got the error message the first two times and only when it was to be stored on the internal SSD. However I did tick validate as part of the simple image though did not specify byte by byte. The last time I noticed that the image finished, the memory cache was flushed and then I suppose it went into validation and failed. It is however intermittent, subsequent to my post I did manage a successful image. I had a quick look at your link and will need to study this more to have a chance to understand this, but this frightens me. As mentioned I am using a SSD for the image backup and did not make any adjustments prior to starting the image process. Those images without errors did mount without issues though. I am just about to leave for the opera but one further image completed successfully just now.

 

Have a look in IFW.LOG. It will detail the errors.

 

Brian, the error code for the failed updates was Code 3 - unable to read from file. This happened during validation, seems the actual updates went through. Anyway, I have now opened the pc, cleaned the connections and did another update and these come up with error code 0, so they seem fine. I will monitor this but at the moment to me it seems that the earlier issue may have been hardware related with the secondary destination drive being disconnected during validation.

 

beethoven,

Thanks for the info. Please let us know if things change.

 

Did not have any further issues and will go ahead to buy the bundle

 

When you buy you will see three stores offering the bundle. Check the price of each store as their currency exchange rates differ. Don't choose an option for "insurance" or something similar, which adds to the price. Don't download the software from the store. Download from...

https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/product-download.php

 

Thanks Brian, you started to respond before I even posted Ok, I assumed after having received my order confirmation and a key, I would just enter the key into the trial version and turn this into a full version but this seems not to be the case? I can download the a new version
from the Terabyte site but so many options. Do I go for "All in One V 3.3 and then install over the top or do I need to remove the trial version first? Also, when would I sue the Image for Uefi version? My bios is Uefi mode (Win 10 Pro)

 

beethoven,

Uninstall the trial IFW. Login to the TeraByte site with your new info and download...

TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite V3.38 (All In One. Includes Image for Windows V3.x) (GUI version)

BootIt Collection (BIU V1.17, BIBM V1.65)

That's all you need at present. IFL and IFU are in the first download so you don't need separate downloads.

Install the first item. There are numerous options. My list is...

Make a UFD from BootIt. Use the UEFI option....

You can boot the UFD and use Maintenance mode to check out the screens. Don't install it yet.

 

Excellent - thank you very much for your guidance.

 

Brian, that worked very well until I got to the UFD - I may misread my system because the error message when trying to boot from it it: Unsupported Boot Mode- the boot media ony supports UEFI mode. Check your system configurations options for uefi boot mode. Did I make a mistake during the setup or did I misread my system re UEFI?

 

beethoven,

Plug in your UFD and check it in Windows Explorer. Is there an efi folder? There should be. If not it's a BIBM UFD.

Did you use the Boot Menu to boot the UFD? There could be two entries for the UFD. One for UEFI and one for Legacy. Don't use Boot Priority Order for booting. Use the Boot Menu.

Check your BIOS/Firmware. Ideally you should have CSM (Compatibility Support Module) Disabled. Check the Boot Mode. Your menu could be different but the mode should be UEFI and not Legacy/Other. Secure Boot should be Enabled but having it Disabled won't prevent the UFD from booting.