SecureAPlus vs. Voodoo Shield

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by atunis5804, May 20, 2015.

  1. imdb

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    if you're gonna be using the free versions, both
    sap and vs are mediocre products and there are way better alternatives. if you're planning to pay for security, i'd say there are plenty of way superior options. kis is a very good choice, for instance.
     
  2. GrDukeMalden

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    Actually...
    voodooshield free > SecureAPlus Lite

    SecureAPlus lite allows by nothing more than a publisher signature. Voodoo free still matches things based on MD5 hashes, SHA256 hashes AND a publisher signatures.

    The only thing to complain about with the free version of voodoo is the fact that you can't change the settings on it.

    The free version of SAP however will allow an unknown file simply because it has a valid digital signature. I've explained in SAP's own thread on this site why that's bad.
     
  3. imdb

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    ok, thanks for the comparison. i don't want to get into an a vs b debate. for my money, they're both mediocre products, free or paid.
     
  4. james246

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    So VS is mediocre, perhaps you could demonstrate for the benefit of the developer the malware intrusions that defeats it and I do not mean a rigged test against Autopilot Mode.
    Put VS into Always On Mode (or even Smart Mode) and demonstrate the Malware that succeeds in defeating it, I am sure the developer is looking to improve his product and would love to know why his protection software is mediocre
     
  5. Buddel

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    I only tried VS, both free and paid, and I wasn't impressed at all. As mentioned by @imdb above, KIS is way superior and therefore a very good choice.
     
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    Indeed he is james246...Dan most definitively welcomes examples of where VS has not 'covered all the entrances'...but as you also say...substantiated evidence of what & how this has occurred is very much required...but unfortunately from what I have seen most often than not it is as you say "a rigged test against Autopilot Mode".
     
  7. james246

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    Yes KIS is great software - I personally think it is the best security suite, but if you want additional magnificent light protection alongside a free anti virus (like for example Kaspersky,) then I believe VS is sensational not mediocre.
    To those that feel VS is a mediocre let them demonstrate to the developer the malware attacks that defeats it
     
  8. imdb

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    why would i do that? what's in it for me? i'm not a voodoosoft employee. why would i waste my time and resources on something i don't care about? for those interested, there are tons of test results for security products by so called "independent" labs and security professionals.

    apart from that, i also think that dan is a very good guy who deserves all the support.

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/voodooshield.313706/page-717#post-2829927

     
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  9. Buddel

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    Just for the record, I also appreciate Dan's efforts, but I just don't like VS.
     
  10. james246

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    There is no accountable measurable by which VS can be called mediocre a word which insults the efforts of the developer, some may prefer to user other security software it is a question of taste.
    The long and short of it is simple, if an individual chooses to use VS he/she has a superb defense in place.
     
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    Absolutely agree!! :thumb::D
     
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    Yeah, that "vulnerability" in autopilot mode is horse crap. People are just trying to nay-say it and they used a dirty, cheap trick to "prove" their case.

    SAP and VS are both great products, but the free version of SAP isn't any good anymore, so if you're going to use SAP, you gotta pay for it.

    In a lot of antivirus test videos on youtube, I'll look at the comments and there seems to be an invisible legion of trolls that constantly say that products like SecureAPlus, Comodo & Voodooshield are bad. Those same comment trolls also constantly say that products like Kaspersky, bitdefender and windows defender are great.

    Well, I've never seen an honest test of Comodo, SAP, or VS where they even came close to failing to protect the system. Those comment trolls never acknowledge the weaknesses that Kaspersky, WD and BD have against unknown threats, nor do they take note of the extra layers of whitelisting products for when they encounter unknown malware.
     
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    Well, Kaspersky has the same weakness all of the conventional products have, as soon as it encounters something it doesn't have in the database, it can't protect you from it. Their behavioral detection is good, but there's lots of sneaky things that cyber criminals do that can easily subvert KIS. Fileless malware and exploits that things like HMPA are meant to protect against for example.

    VS and SAP are both prepared for fileless malware that calls upon legitimate system files and VS is prepared for any kind of script that makes use of windows system files and more. And SAP is prepared for malicious scripts that call upon lots of legitimate files too. KIS can't do that, but the three well known whitelisting products are prepare for it.
     
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    This whole thread is an A vs B debate, about two products, SecureAPlus and VoodooShield. You're the one that injected Kaspersky into this.
     
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    I said this to @imdb as well. KIS can't protect against scripts or fileless malware. VS and SAP can.
     
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    Then why did you spend all of this time promoting Kaspersky? Also that post you linked to didn't have anything to do with what we were talking about.
     
  17. imdb

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    :rolleyes: kis with properly configured tam provides a much tighter security than vs or sap.
     
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    not true at all. kis with properly configured tam provides the same protection you could get with vs or sap, and even more.
     
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    I doubt that. Like I said, I haven't seen an honest test of SAP or VS where they failed.
     
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    Actually, I would guess that your posts are pretty much an indicator of why A versus B threads are problematic. Too often such threads generate posts like "They both stink" without offering any objective facts. Those type of pontifical comments almost always cause objective discussions to degenerate into mud-slinging contests.
     
  21. GrDukeMalden

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    Yeah. This thread is Voodooshield vs SecureAPlus. And this other person started promoting Kaspersky and saying that the original products being discussed in this thread are both "mediocre". Utterly ludicrous. Both SAP and VS are excellent products. As can be seen in every honest test of either of them.

    The two of these products together make for an almost unbeatable setup. (nothing is infallible)

    And while it's true that lots of other products are also good, this thread it about SecureAPlus & VoodooShield.

    Thanks @bellgamin
     
  22. imdb

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    well, that's understandable. because, they're not put to test by security professionals/experts/test labs. so, no test, no failure or success.
     
  23. GrDukeMalden

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    AVLab gives Voodoo free and paid and SAP 5/5 stars every year when they do their own testing. Although, I' going to predict they're not going to give the free version of SAP a very good rating for the top free products of 2020.

    But when they their reviews of the top paid products for 2020, they're going to give SAP essentials and pro 5/5 and voodooshield paid 5/5 for sure.
     
  24. imdb

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    oh yeah? :rolleyes:

     
  25. bellgamin

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    Your unsupported slurs are adding nothing to this thread.
     
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