US attorney general William Barr says Americans should accept security risks of encryption backdoors

Discussion in 'privacy problems' started by guest, Jul 23, 2019.

  1. mirimir

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    I don't see an issue. But then, I'm concerned about overzealous moderation. So sure, Facebook doesn't want to pay people to police content. But that works for me.

    Rather than moderation (even collectively by users) for everyone, I want tools for filtering what I see. In email clients, I can ignore messages from particular users, or even from particular domains. I can ignore messages containing particular words. Wilders does allow filtering by user, and that's great. And I can select the forums to follow. But it bugs me sometimes when posts and threads disappear. I'd rather have something like HN does. Moderation there is almost as strict as here. But mostly it's based on voting. And you can toggle whether so see dead comments.
     
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    Germany calls for Facebook to nix encryption plans
    October 12, 2019
    https://www.dw.com/en/germany-calls-for-facebook-to-nix-encryption-plans/a-50809450
     
  3. mirimir

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    Funny.

    From what I've read, Facebook just wants to spend less on moderation.
     
  4. Palancar

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    That makes perfect sense. Just like an ISP is probably happy that some use quality VPNs. There are no DMCA letters or similar to field from users. Its much easier to say my user connects to XYZ VPN and beyond that I know nothing!
     
  5. guest

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    India Calls on Global Tech Giants to Reveal Source of Encrypted Messages
    October 14, 2019
    https://sputniknews.com/science/201...iants-to-reveal-source-of-encrypted-messages/
     
  6. guest

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    Edward Snowden
    Without encryption, we will lose all privacy. This is our new battleground
    October 15, 2019
    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ryption-lose-privacy-us-uk-australia-facebook
     
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    Exclusive: Interpol plans to condemn encryption spread, citing predators, sources say
    November 17, 2019
    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-i...ad-citing-predators-sources-say-idUKKBN1XR0S5
     
  9. mirimir

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    It's nice to see Facebook defending privacy. As ironic as that may seem.
     
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    Interpol group delays criticism of encryption after objections
    November 27, 2019
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-of-encryption-after-objections-idUSKBN1Y12EK
     
  11. deBoetie

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    The legal basis for Interpol says, quite specifically: “It is strictly forbidden for the Organization to undertake any intervention or activities of a political, military, religious or racial character.”

    I'd suggest they would be operating well outside their legal mandate in getting involved in this (although there has been a very worrying collusion between global LE organisations, Interpol should certainly not be doing so). It's up to individual forces to make democratic representations in their jurisdiction regarding these very contentious matters.
     
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    NSPCC warns Facebook of becoming ‘one-stop grooming shop’ over encryption plans
    December 5, 2019
    https://www.itv.com/news/2019-12-05...one-stop-grooming-shop-over-encryption-plans/
     
  13. guest

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    Is It Time to Ban End-To-End Encryption?
    Bad for privacy, but good for catching the bad guys
    December 6, 2019
    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/it-time-ban-end-end-encryption-102767
     
  14. reasonablePrivacy

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    Well, police still can use infiltration. After detaining somebody they can interrogate them. Secret services may use malware/exploits/physical implants to infect targeted devices. E2E does not mean there is not metadata and metadata reveals quite a lot.
    There are lots of cctv cameras and a lot people can record evidence using their smartphones when they see criminal activity they not tolerate or just be old-fashioned witnesses. Isn't that enough?
     
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    Encryption can't put tech giants beyond the reach of the law, Minister says
    December 11, 2019
    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/...of-the-law-minister-says-20191211-p53ize.html
     
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    Senate Judiciary committee interrogates Apple, Facebook about crypto
    December 12, 2019
    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...tee-interrogates-apple-facebook-about-crypto/
     
  18. guest

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    Demanding Weaker Encryption To Help Law Enforcement Makes Us All Less Safe
    December 15, 2019
    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...law-enforcement-makes-us-all-less-safe-104672
     
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    Fancy New Terms, Same Old Backdoors: The Encryption Debate in 2019
    December 26, 2019
    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/12/fancy-new-terms-same-old-backdoors-encryption-debate-2019
     
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    Indian panel wants encryption broken in fight against child porn
    January 27, 2020
    https://in.reuters.com/article/indi...ken-in-fight-against-child-porn-idINKBN1ZQ0SB
     
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    Draft law could put encryption at risk, report says
    January 31, 2020
    https://www.cnet.com/news/draft-law-could-put-encryption-at-risk-report-says/
    Bloomberg: Lindsey Graham Proposal Could Expose Apple, Facebook to Lawsuits
     
  23. guest

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    The EARN IT Act: How to Ban End-to-End Encryption Without Actually Banning It
    January 30, 2020
    https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/...nd-end-encryption-without-actually-banning-it
     
  24. mirimir

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    Yes, this is horrible.

    But still, trusting anyone like Apple or Facebook to actually provide end-to-end encryption is foolish.

    I mean, consider how deceptive Apple has been about encryption of iCloud backups. They talk about encryption in transit. And then disclose in the fine print that they can in fact decrypt everything. The only way to actually get securely encrypted iOS backups is to do it locally on your computer.
     
  25. guest

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    NSPCC urges Facebook to stop encryption plans
    February 5, 2020
    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51391301
     
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