What would you recommend for online payments?

Discussion in 'other firewalls' started by laruru, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. itman

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    I believe your missing the point on both features.

    Sandboxing and VM are containment strategies. They contain malware from infecting the rest of your system. They do not protect malware from infecting the browser itself.
     
  2. laruru

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    I see that there's "Bromium" solution for VM'ing, but I can't find any information on it. In fact I can't even find download/shop link. Does anyone have any information?
     
  3. Brummelchen

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    forget bromium. forget tons of installed security software. you have been advised what to do first. if you dont trust your system there is nothing you can do to secure it afterwards. there must at least a point you can rely on!
     
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    I have to agree with post #28. Specialized security software isn't necessary. Just try to avoid unsecured wifi such as hotels, cafes or airports, and make sure the url to the payment site is really the right one.
     
  5. laruru

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    And what if those institutions don't offer Rapport themselves? Would it be reasonable to install it then?

    Is it easy to remove it(Windows 10)? I've read people had to reinstall whole systems because of Rapport, but that was before Windows 10.
     
  6. itman

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    See this thread posting for reference: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thr...fication-project-q1-2018.405222/#post-2764045
    I appears IBM has moved "the guts" of TR to the cloud. As such, I would imagine system performance impact and install/uninstall issues would be minimal. Note I am one of "those people" that haven't used TR in years and when so, it was on Win 7.
     
  7. laruru

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    Interesting. I do wonder does Rapport work with just IE, Edge, Firefox, Chrome or also forks like Vivaldi, Chromium, PaleMoon, etc.
     
  8. lucd

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    Eset's Banking protection on chrome canary (to scramble the odds) and local key encryption (I'll go for HMPA), preferably ran from a secured VM or nested VMs with different O/S between host and guest, ie Linux->Windows with the security setup described above. You can go for light VM or a sandobox like Re-hips and a decent AV and anti-logger with decreased protection 2 as well. Don't recommned (not owned) VPNS or TOR
    system must be 100% trusted with 0% risky operations employed in the past, clean as a baby
     
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  9. Infected

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    I run CFW and use the Virtual Desktop....easiest to use.
     
  10. Circuit

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    Eset's Banking protection with Firefox.

    Or SpyShelter Silent, MBAE, AppGuard and, a browser with no extensions .
     
  11. itman

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    Per the Q1 2019 MRG Banking Protection Certification test: https://www.mrg-effitas.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/2019_OBQ1.pdf , four products are certified:

    Avira
    BitDefender
    Eset
    Kaspersky
     
  12. mekelek

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    i would go with Kaspersky's safe web browser tbh
     
  13. Soft Life

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    Don't forget the company handling your info - you don't have any control over this.

    For instance I bought a brand new car in 2014 at the dealer and let them find the financing for me. Do you know what operating system I seen he was using? Windows XP. I said do you know that is out of support or just about to be? He said he doesn't know and that his IT guy does whatever. He was searching for the best rate for me for the loan and obviously entered all of my personal info.

    A lot of business just use Internet Explorer. You never know what software the person is using on the other end of the phone or in person
     
  14. lucd

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    does any free version offer such protection
     
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    Not that I am aware of. BitDefender used to offer a stand-alone vers. called SafePay but it was discontinued a while ago.

    If your bank supports and offers Trusteer Rapport, you can try that. Past reviews have been mostly negative as to system impacts. Also there are privacy concerns with it.
     
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    Online Banking = playing with fire. "NOTHING IS SAFE ONLINE"
    Over the phone (landline).
    Only some-what safe.
     
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    your system may be safe , the server you do transaction may not...
     
  18. lucd

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    or maybe Qube OS, this is sandbox I think not VM based OS, it sandoboxes different running processes...
    would make sense to run Qube for banking but on standard browser not TOR and such (preferably chrome : for update cycles and bounty hunt)
    I really want to learn Qube to the core, maybe as nested VM (when baking needed, mount cube OS from windows), I don't need Qube for day to day tasks
    if not on windows OS maybe half keys can be entered on kaspersky keyboard (from kaspersky free) and half on local encryption like zemana or HMPA
     
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