Testing Neushield

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by Peter2150, Aug 6, 2019.

  1. EASTER

    EASTER Registered Member

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    Reading over the claims and procedures in this screenie just wet my appetite.

    The mirroring seems the bread n butter of a complete restore if hit. Hmmm
     
  2. guest

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    thanks for the screens, seems very interesting at first sight.
    Now we have the theory, I need @Peter2150 to do the practice lol
     
  3. imdb

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    :D mine, too.
     
  4. imdb

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    no problem. :thumb:
     
  5. B-boy/StyLe/

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    It looks like a good program but I am wondering why someone will use it instead of Appcheck, KART, RansomOff, Ranstop or ZoneAlarm Anti-Ransomware since all these can rollback/revert the changes caused by ransomware and additionally they can clean/remove the infection as well?

    Also I guess the program rely on their own technology to create copies of the files and don't use VSS or File History or System Restore to do that? How much disk space is needed for for the program to be able to backup the entire disk lol? I don't get it.
     
  6. guest

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    It is not restricted only to ransomwares.
    It seems to be a disaster recovery kind of soft.

    You don't backup the entire disk. There is no backup, disk writes are redirected.
    Using an analogy, it is like you put a tarpaulin over your car to protect it from dust and bird's excrements. When you want work on your car, you just throw the tarpaulin away.
     
  7. B-boy/StyLe/

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    It does make sense but I still prefer to do a full system image and to backup the files I need with a software which can synchronize them. But it's maybe just me.

    What I meant was how the program determine which files needs to be protected. The most used ones or it use something else to decide because trying to protect all files on every partition will consume a lot of disk space.
     
  8. guest

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    You can't compare image backup and rollback systems.

    It determines nothing, after the soft is installed and its protection enabled, all disk writes are redirected to what they call the "overlay".
    I see you are not familiar with rollback softs like rollback RX or light virtualization like Shadow Defender or deepfreeze.
    Those also protect the partitions by redirecting writes to a dedicated "space" while the original files a kept untouched, no need to backup anything.
     
  9. Peter2150

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    This is simple. YOU determine the folders. It does some document folders by default, but then you determine the additional folders.

    There are a lot of chances in the planning phase which I can't discuss at this point, but I think will prove exciting.
     
  10. B-boy/StyLe/

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    I don't compare anything. I described my own backup (aka disaster recovery) strategy.

    To be honest I didn't use Rollback RX since I saw a lot of negative reviews about it (related to different issues when using it) but I used Shadow Defender, DeepFreeze and TimeFreeze.
    I didn't know Neushield is similar to them. I thought it is something like VSS keeping different versions of the files which can be used by the user to switch back in case of problems (using ShadowExplorer for example).
    Thanks for the explanation.

    That's cool! I'll keep an eye on the product then.
     
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  11. erreale

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    I'm trying it. Seems to promise well. For now it seems very simple to use.
     
  12. Trooper

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    Thanks for the reply back. Looks like this will be a product that I pass on. Cheers.
     
  13. bellgamin

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    @Peter2150 -- I *think* I read somewhere, here at Wilders, that you image daily. If so, why would you need Neushield?
     
  14. Peter2150

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    Actually I not only image daily, but also hourly. I feel my protection setup fully protects me but I also realize it not for a lot of people. So I like to look at new products. Most just don't interest me, but this one intrigues me I am interested and if I can help them I will.
     
  15. bellgamin

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    Excellent! Thanks for the info. I shall follow the Neushield thread to see how it goes.

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  16. StillBorn

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    Okay, I'll concede laziness here since I took the most casual glance at their website. Are we looking at an updated and hopefully more compatible version with W10 of Shadow Defender perhaps? Maybe a mix of Raxco Instant Recovery tossed in for greater effect?
     
  17. Peter2150

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    Actually Neither
     
  18. hawki

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    FWIW:

    PC Mag Review of NeuShield Data Sentinel

    Of note: "My company contact notes that future versions won't depend on System Restore, ..."

    Conclusion:

    "In testing, it handled file-encrypting, disk-encrypting, and screen-locking ransomware. You do risk losing the current day's changes, but that's better than losing all your files. If you're willing to pay for ransomware peace of mind, especially in a business setting, Data Sentinel can be an excellent choice.
    At present, our Editors' Choice ransomware protector is Check Point ZoneAlarm Anti-Ransomware. I anticipate Data Sentinel growing to share that honor, perhaps with the promised version that's not reliant on System Restore."

    https://www.pcmag.com/review/372118/neushield-data-sentinel
     
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  19. Rasheed187

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    I must say that I totally forgot about NeuShield, but I wonder why not more people are using it since it actually seems like a brilliant solution against ransomware. I have it currently installed, hopefully it won't interfere with AppCheck, but I doubt it, because AppCheck is a behavior blocker and NeuShield is a restore solution. I did make NeuShield processes trusted in another tool that I'm using named Secure Folders.

    NeuShield seems to be using almost no resources, it's light on RAM and doesn't seem to cause any disk or CPU activity. Keep in mind that it won't try to block ransomware from encrypting your files, that's the job of Win Defender and AppCheck in my case. But if they somehow fail to protect, it will simply restore all files in your guarded folders like for example the Desktop, Documents and Downloads folder where most people store their files. Any thoughts on this tool, which is freeware?

    https://www.neushield.com
     
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    Salutations/Greetings,

    Does anybody know about CryptoBuster AntiRansomware :?
    Thoughts/Opinions :)
     
  23. Rasheed187

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    Seems like most home users won't need those features.

    Seems like it can cause problems with system restore? Well guess what, system restore has never worked for me, so I wouldn't rely on it anyway. So far NeuShield hasn't caused any problems for me, but I haven't tried restoring files yet. From what I understood it will automatically commit file changes after a week or so. I never really was into tools like Shadow Defender, but seems like NeuShield is exactly what I need. I remember that years ago I deleted a folder on my desktop with a lot of music files by mistake, but a tool like NeuShield would have easily recovered it by simply reverting the desktop folder.
     
  24. digmor crusher

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    System restore has saved my bacon on numerous occasions, including yesterday after a BSOD. I wanted to try Emsisoft again, after uninstall a bsod, just restored to a restore point from 3 days ago and boom, fixed.
     
  25. Rasheed187

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    It has never been reliable for me, I would rather just reset the whole PC, which has saved me a couple of times, or use some other third party restore tool. But Windows System Restore sucks in my book. But I did notice that I lost 10GB of diskspace, I'm not sure if it's because of NeuShield who is making restore points, or if it's some issue with my pagefile, I guess I will find out on next reboot.
     
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