Sandboxie Acquired by Invincea

can not speak for yesterday, today all fine. you can try out with
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

 

Are you arguing with yourself? Sounds like it.

 

Even when it's up it appears to be down.

 

Pointing, to some, the obvious

 

Just two questions to be sure that I understood the following correctly:

And this adware/malware may have come on my system typically by downloading/installing it (e.g. together with some software etc.)? Correct?

You mean: This applies in case I (already) have some adware/malware on my system (because of some former downloading, installation etc.)? Correct?

 

Hi Peter. I am pretty sure he meant to say that if you install a program outside the sandbox, and that program comes with adware or ( I add) malware, when you run the program sandboxed, the infection would do its thing.

Regarding depending on Sandboxie for security, I think the most important detail we have to take care of is, the programs we install outside the sandbox. If we install programs outside the sandbox that come with adware, Sandboxie wont do nothing about the adware and its not supposed to do anything. Sandboxie is an application sandbox that contain the changes programs you run sandboxed make, not an analyzer of behavior or scanner that tell us our system is infected. So, for Sandboxie to work real nice, we have to start clean to begin with, with no infections.

Bo

 

i think i should answer yes/yes. (i dont speak about firefox portable, only regular installations or profiles.ini usage)

but as bo pointed out a test installation in sandboxie could eliminate the risk (if possible).
you can check content in the box with any scanner you like to. it is also possible to run adwcleaner or malwarebytes free (services wont run) in the same box.

adware is no longer simple since ages, its sophisticated. with admin level adware is capable to find nearly all, even a firefox portable if that is the target.

 

You were here earlier today, and didn't give Peter an answer....so, I did.

A test installation of a browser in a sandbox, does eliminate the adware installing in the real profile but not in the sandboxed profile.

Regarding running scans to check contents of the sandbox for adware/infections, not all scanners will be able to do it. Probably, most will do it OK, but not all scanners will be able to scan successfully the Sandbox folder.

Bo

 

Thanks, Bo and Brummelchen for your replies.

Yes, that's the way I interpreted it too, and I wanted to be sure that I understood it correctly.

Now I feel better. I was worried because both my Firefox profile and my Firefox installation are outside of Sandboxie - against Brummelchen's advice. So I was concerned about my security. But with the clarifications I feel o.k. again. I install very seldom programs - and in case that I do so, I think I can rely that it will come without adware/malware (choosing trustful source, checking by various scanners etc.).

 

i am running all outside sandboxie, even with profiles.ini which is common for firefox installations.
profiles.ini has advantage when using adwcleaner or similar. true portables are not found, neither nor.
sandboxie (paid) is part of my security, but no software is here solely managing it.
i had malware defender as a hips but it become bothering me so uninstall - thats reason i dont use ReHips or any hips again.
so many bricks here to build the wall. ofc this is grown over the year and not by finger snipping.

 

"Soon" ...

 

Non-technical issues = usually sales issues.

 

The old Sandboxie support forum still accessible here.
You'll have to do some navigating and all pages may
not be available. WaybackMachine (Internet Archive)
will show up on many searches. You also may find WaybackMachine
has not archived that URL.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190316053917/https://forums.sandboxie.com/phpBB3/index.php

Search by year on WaybackMachine.
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://forums.sandboxie.com/phpBB3/

 

I have been running sandboxie since the early days and still feel comfortable using it. I do note however that issues pop up more frequently. I recently dumped FF (not because I don't like it but because I felt running it sandboxed made it sluggish and caused frequent freezing). I am now back on using chrome and vivaldi and usually run two browsers sandboxed at the same time. One new issue I noticed recently is that when I close chrome usually at night, Vivaldi shuts down too. I have not tested this outside of sandboxie and have no idea if sandboxie is involved but I have no idea why else it should happen. Both browsers run in the same sandbox, so I am thinking maybe closing one and having sandboxie configured to autodelete upon closing, it now closes somehow the other browser too. I am also using NOD and note that this program had some issues with not releasing sandboxie properly causing the sandboxes not to be cleared. Maybe the new cleaner module they introduced recently to deal with this issue is causing some new interference?

 

@beethoven probably Leader Program setting.

If it is closed, all the sandbox is closed despite other programs being active in it.

 

ok, I will check that. Just surprised that this never happened in the past but it's possible that I only changed the settings when NOD started to prevent the autodelete. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

Sorry for the late reply

Thank you Bo,

I always learned something new, I did what you suggest me when updating FF to the current version

Came

 

Can I declare Sandboxie dead? Or abandoneware?

Came

PS: Sorry for the double post

 

if you consider it as dead - then yes, your decision.

 

It's not the end of the world if Sandboxie is abandoned, especially if you're running Windows 10.

-Run as SUA
-Use the free built-in firewall to block inbound
-Use OSArmor, free from here: https://www.novirusthanks.org/products/osarmor/
-Use a good browser with an Ad & script blocking extension (block iframes and 3rd-party scripts by default)
-Run free built-in Windows Security
-Apply many of the suggestions here: https://hardenwindows10forsecurity.com/
-If you have the Pro version use Software Restriction Policy set up as Default-deny

Exercise some common sense with emails and file downloads and you will never be compromised. It will cost you nothing unless you pay the extra $$ for the Pro version. Well worth it IMHO. Remember, >15 years ago there were destructive viruses. Nowadays, even though they are more "stealthy" and technical articles are written to scare people into wearing their tin hats and "you can be protected by using our": fill-in-the-blanks anti malware program, it's all over hyped. No need to get all up in arms about it. It astounds me to see no discussions in these forums about simply not allowing the exploits to grab a hold in the first place. Keep the exploits on the outside and they are meaningless.

 

I would add a good working backup program to recover the OS in less than 10 minutes.

 

Else look at Andy Ful's Hard_Configurator. Does most of the above.

 

The delay continues:

 

Sound advice. Ignorance and paranoia abound in today's world, and on security forums.