Big Brother: China’s chilling dictatorship moves to introduce scorecards to control everyone

https://www.news.com.au/technology/...e/news-story/6c821cbf15378ab0d3eeb3ec3dc98abf

 

Damn. It's sorta like credit scores, but way creepier. India is heading that way too. And, for that matter, stuff like this has been proposed in the "free world". Not for "negative about the government", it's true. More like "not rude, threatening or harassing". Or basically "not PC". For example, it's an issue in Mastodon, with circulation of instance blocklists.

Edit: Or this: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thr...st-score-to-combat-fraud.408381/#post-2782301

 

@mirimir Rules of the people want this system so that they can keep peasants in control.
Then they can continue being the pigs that they are without any intervention.

Im sure that nice lady with high credit score is happy of the system and the perks it gives to her and her family.
The original intention of this system might have been good (scumbacks like thiefs, murderers etc... should be not allowed any public services) but in practise this does not work because government defines what is "good" behaviour. Like what happened to that chinese journalists whose only "crime" was exposing corruption.
And also not to mention the self-censoring and old DDR-like (times one point four billion) stalking of your friends and family members that this system brings...

If I were a chinese, bright student, fluent with english I would seriously consider starting to pack and leave the country before this stalker system is in full swing. China has always been shutting itself from outside world since ancient history (first the Great wall and then it's virtual equivalent) to keep "barbarians" out and the peasant in it's own la-la-land. And now its starting to form into planets biggest prison with 1.4 billion inmates.

 

"If I were a chinese, bright student, fluent with english I would seriously consider starting to pack and leave the country before this stalker system is in full swing. "
When you arrive at your new location don't unpack.

 

Yeah, that's the sad part

 

I'm not sure if there are any geo-location issues, but the episode of the TV show, Foreign Correspondent, titled "Leave No Dark Corner" can be seen here:

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/foreign-correspondent

27 Minutes.

 

This could eventually be heading to the US; there is already speculation that the Google censored version of its search engine for China is slowly being implemented here as seen by their systematically increasing censorship, data is already being collected on most citizens, cities like New York have cameras on every corner and are now using facial recognition https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018...egun-facial-recognition-scans-at-toll-booths/ .

It is likely going to be one of those things that you don't realize is going on until it is too late.

 

This, known as Credit China/信用中国 (it's not clear how it is related to Alibaba's Sesame Credit/芝麻信用 which has been running from 2014 - many media seems not to distinguish them), has been runnning from 2015 thanks to techinical support by Baidu but is not yet completed.

If you were so:
(1) Most Chinese are not so aware about their situation for the first place. All info you can grab have already been controlled. Well, but they know they're monitored and ranked...do you think they're in mad, desperate, fear, etc.? Not at all (except for some region such as Tibet ofc). They say they don't care as "I don't do bad thing"...we hear the same in here and there, right?
(2) A few of such ones as you described are trying to fight. But they are aware that even in foreign country they're being monitored (there're "spy" in local Chinese community) and that not only them but also their family in China will be endangered if they do or say sth unfavorable to govt. They use prepaid phone to login social media for speech, but not only their social media but also email and Dropbox accounts of them have been under serious attack, almost daily they get password reset mail. If you have interest, search for "Not my president". It is them who need real security. I hope Wilders is helpful for them to some extent.

 

I'm sure that it's very hard for activists in China. I can't quite imagine.

 

It is not unexpected with what is happening in China at the moment, but it is also problematic for the government.

In some way this is almost a wealth tax, as there is still a large percentage of the population that is very poor and there are no mechanisms to build files, as they have limited access to create an electronic footprint. So if you are wealthy there is more attention drawn to you.

As stated above, we already have these measures to a certain extent with police and credit checks. To get and maintain a security clearance, I have had to be vetted which involves handing over every detail and being subject to checks. The difference in China is that compliance with the political system is added as a measure. It also creates a central vetting process, which is why people slip through the checks in western countries as all the different data bases aren’t connected.

It will create a duality of experience as wealth has liberated many Chinese, but with this wealth a higher level of compliance will be expected. For most people there will be no impact, but any deviation from the government expectations will end very badly; especially with a lack of human rights.

The cost for the Chinese government is the expense of running the system, being bitten by the system even if you are part of it, those that can easily avoid it through poverty and the social impact of creating a monoculture due to lost creativity.

 

Stalker system already in full swing in the UK

 

Sorry I had to laugh a bit when I read that due to the state of your politics and lacklustre politicians.

If they are pushing an agenda using the Stalker System, it would be difficult to comply, as there doesn't seem to be any clear direction presented.

 

Chinese authorities use 'gait' surveillance to identify people by their body shape and walk

 

I'm unsure how much surveillance is really necessary in order to find one person in 1.42 billion people, that are all mostly located in the broad-coastal area. But I guess it must be quite much.

 

NSA must be *********** now.
These things (scorecard system, cashless system, AI glasses, etc..), they just beg for hacking
Or serious power grid failure

 

No Googledy-goo-goo eyes for me. I likee DuckDuckGo

 

This is not China that should implement this system, should be the US, some idiots with guns would think twice before shooting people.

 

Yes, the country has a "little" problem when it has more guns than people.

But even if USA had this system in place it wont actually prevent shooting.
If any random nut just cracks and decides to spend rest of the day butchering random
people it does not matter to him/her if the system recognize his/her mug or not...

 

How does this technology apply to the Ministry of Silly Walks? Surely this software could be defeated by just walking in a silly way. Problem solved!

 

Politics has always been in a 'state' here lol. I'd probably use a more colourful adjective than lacklustre. It doesn't matter anyway as this post will be edited for political content.

 

Nuts won't care, but gangsta dudes will.

 

I once had an idea: Let them have guns, no problem. But regulate normal ammunition. Make ammunition that blocks semi- and full-automatic weapons, sell that unregulated. Or forbid selling any at all.
I don't think the second amendment specifically includes ammunition, or does it?

Of course they didn't like that either.

Or that: Pass a law that lets everyone buy a gun, but before so, they have to get shot in the rear with a 22. caliber.
EDIT: (Sry, didn't need to quote)

 

They will get easily accustomed to it by creating false profiles, just like they are using fake IDs now.
Those "advancements" are always introduced as something, that will help to fight the crime, but it won't.

 

The trouble is (if you, say, had a limp in mind) if you kept that up for any length of time it might turn into a real one.

 

I believe they don't have access to their profiles, and I don't see every gangsta changing their facial features to avoid get caught. The system is surely more accurate than Windows Hello lol.