Some VERY basic questions re Process Explorer

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  1. bellgamin

    bellgamin Registered Member

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    I already have an Antivirus (AV) for the computer I am presently using but I am re-activating an older laptop with only 4gb RAM & a 2 core cpu. Accordingly, I need to pay some attention to the amount of resources used by the various AVs I am considering for it.

    Q1- As pertains to Process Explorer (PE), the "Working Set" column is probably its closest approximation of each process's Ram usage, correct?

    Q2- Which is PE's best indicator of a process's impact on a laptop's liveliness or sluggishness: cpu time, or cycles, or I/O total rate, or... some other measure?
     
  2. bellgamin

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    Hmmm... couple of days with zero replies. Are my questions: (a) stupid?, or (b) boring?, or (c) too hard?
     
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    For me the answer is ( C ) as I don't use it. Hope you get a pertinent answer soon.
     
  4. Minimalist

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    Q1 - yes, you can use that info for RAM usage approximation.

    Q2 - harder to say. CPU time can show if AV conducts CPU intensive operations. I/O activity can show if there's a lot of HDD activity happening. IF you have HDD instead of SSD, it can slow down your system. I prefer when AV loads more data in RAM and doesn't read/write to disk all the time.

    For me more RAM is better than less RAM usage. CPU usage is not that important unless on demand scan is run - I prefer it's conducted with low CPU priority.
     
  5. guest

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    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1170654/how-to-interpret-windows-task-manager

    for me i/O reads and writes, and their respective rates.
     
  6. bellgamin

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    Great link, guest. I now understand Working Set much better now.

    P.S. Keep your hands off my crayons. :cautious:
     
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    Can you perhaps tell me the difference between I/O writes and disk writes? What exactly is I/O?
     
  9. roger_m

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    They are the same thing.
    https://www.webopedia.com/TERM/I/I_O.html
     
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    @Rasheed187 , Disk activity isn't exactly same as I/O activity, if they were, you won't have different column for them.
     
  13. Minimalist

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    I agree. I/O activity is not only disk I/O activity. I remember that, when I was using Malware Defender, it's process had constant I/O activity although it didn't read and write to disk much. IMO that activity had something to do with all controls it was conducting (disk, memory, process, network activity...).
     
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    That's exactly my point.

    OK so can we conclude that I/O writes and reads haven't got anything to do with disk writes and reads?
     
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    I've noticed that Vivaldi also constantly produces both I/O reads and writes, so I think it's safe to assume that it's not the same as disk writes and reads.
     
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