No more individual patches for Windows 7 and 8

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    Thanks! I already installed the Security Only without issues, I asked for users not wanting to install the March updates.
    I installed KB4100480, no problems so far.
     
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    No issues so far with KB4100480.
     
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    KB4099950 is reviewed in the Sorting through the Patch Thursday and Friday offerings post at AskWoody, in the "Save your IP if you're prescient" paragraph.
    KB4099950 is a package for the VBScript that, when run prior to installing the March 2018 updates KB4088875 or KB4088878 for Window 7, prevents the issue "Network Interface Card settings can be replaced, or static IP address settings can be lost".
    Therefore, if one wants to install KB4088875 or KB4088878, KB4099950 must be installed prior to those.
    If KB4088875 or KB4088878 were already installed, it is no use installing KB4099950, so it seems.

    After installing KB4088875 or KB4088878 or any of the other updates mentioned in the KB4100480 article, KB4100480 must be applied.
     
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    Since i did not install any of the March win7 patches yet, i did not see a need to install 950 patch so i hide it and then installed the 480 patch. It looks like i might not install the March rollup because MS pulled it and might not replace it before the April rollup comes out.
     
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    One of my systems is an AMD64 Athlon 2. It is Windows 7, 64 bit on which I install security-only patches. Here is the list of KBs that I installed for it to address 'Meltdown to Total Meltdown' ...

    Order of Install
    1. KB4073578 (JAN security-only)
    2. KB4074587 (FEB security-only)
    3. KB4100480 (Total meltdown patch)
    I did not need the KB4099950 (do not use static IPs). If you do, it should be installed first in the above list.

    Even though KB4100480 and KB4099950 is supposed to be sent out via windows update, I never received them even though I had all monthly previews and monthly rollups hidden. Several users who do security-only updates have reported the same issue. You have to go to the MS Catalog to get them.

    To clarify: Total Meltdown was introduced by Microsoft (in error), in the JAN patches. For AMD systems, the initial meltdown patch was in the FEB patch which caused major problems. It was pulled and the KB shown in step 2 (above) is its replacement. There was a noticeable performance impact with this patch.

    After installing patch #3, performance has improved (don't know why). Opening and closing programs and browsing back to normal.
     
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    Microsoft Releases Windows 7 Update KB4099950 to Fix Network Adapter Issues
    Update shipped to Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2
    April 4, 2018

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/micr...50-to-fix-network-adapter-issues-520543.shtml
     
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    Microsoft Releases Updated Version of KB4088875 for Windows 7
    No word on what’s changed in this revised update
    April 5, 2018

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/micr...rsion-of-kb4088875-for-windows-7-520565.shtml
     
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    I wonder whether that is true: "No word on what’s changed in this revised update".

    Let's have a look at KB4088875
    Look at the Known issues in this update:
    You see there that now KB4099950 is included in this updated KB4088875 :
    Well, that is the way I read it.

    See also the previous and today edited post by emmjay in the other thread.
     
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    KB4099950 being released quite sometime after the March updates (KB4088875 and KB408887) has caused lots of confusion. Now the March updates have been revised (though it seems only the metadata). There is reference to KB4099950 being bundled with KB4088875 and that too has added to the confusion (it is not bundled in the March update).

    Update April 4: Today, information to install KB4099950 added

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/4088875/windows-7-update-kb4088875

    Bundling has a different meaning when it comes to windows update and WSUS - it is all about the sequencing of the updates. When we talk about cumulative updating the reference is to every month including the updates from the month before. Not sequencing.

    Update April 4:
    I suggest you do not install this preview. This is just informational ...

    If you look at the preview KB4088881, updated April 4, information added for KB4099950

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4088881/windows-7-update-kb4088881

    Known Issues...
    After you apply this update, a new Ethernet Network Interface Card (NIC) that has default settings may replace the previous NIC and cause network issues. Any custom settings on the previous NIC persist in the registry but aren't used.

    - This issue is resolved by KB4099950 which will be automatically applied when installing this update


    Static IP address settings are lost after you apply this update.

    - This issue is resolved by KB4099950 which will be automatically applied when installing this update
     
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    For security-only (W7/32 and W7/64) ...

    On April 5, Microsoft discovered yet another issue with KB4088878. If you got the stop error after having rebooted, then Microsoft suggests you uninstall KB4088878 and reinstall it, but do not reboot after the install. Click on 'restart later' instead. Now install KB4099467 (from the MS catalog) and reboot.

    stop error 0xAB error message SESSION_HAS_VALID_POOL_ON_EXIT

    Note: you only need KB4099467, if you are getting the stop error.

    Note 2: KB4099467 is also sent out via windows update, but a security-only install may not trigger it.
     
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    April 2018 Patch Tuesday Updates and Rollups

    Windows 7
    Security Only Quality Update for Windows 7 KB4093108 (14,8 MB / 23,3 MB)
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/windows6.1-kb4093108-x86_f0e2e9c3d7cb132c358aa790b891eed37253fa36.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/windows6.1-kb4093108-x64_fe804365f849cc61b133fda1efae299c534b830f.msu
    
    Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 KB4093118 (130,6 MB / 218,9 MB)
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/windows6.1-kb4093118-x86_2bbb81cd98fb80623b7afa3dcb2da73f28322ea3.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/windows6.1-kb4093118-x64_5ea1778b896fcc764e0db8da7d094f62dc98d82f.msu
    
    Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer KB4092946 (28,7 MB / 52,5 MB)
    Note: The monthly quality rollups include IE updates. The security only quality update does not. So, if you are installing the security only quality update, here are the direct links to IE updates:
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/ie11-windows6.1-kb4092946-x86_6e1424e3e554884866f0a47055437ff73b4e1400.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/ie11-windows6.1-kb4092946-x64_e5a5b62500a3f24c335fc2d051e2edf479a952d0.msu
    
    Windows 8.1

    Security Only Quality Update for Windows 8.1 KB4093115 (13,8 MB / 16,3 MB)
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/windows8.1-kb4093115-x86_43921cdd5c0fea1b2e8ae9f7f5b2a3565cfd36a5.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/windows8.1-kb4093115-x64_2168eabe1913691a5dc200ee3339f1982b5b60ce.msu
    
    Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 8.1 KB4093114 (177,3 MB / 321,5 MB)
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/windows8.1-kb4093114-x86_4839d8a3a40dd43742c537cd916d453376da1f9c.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/windows8.1-kb4093114-x64_9946bc9008c14c5eefba036dbc7beb5ecb98337a.msu
    
    Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer KB4092946 (29,1MB / 54,3 MB)
    Note: The monthly quality rollups include IE updates. The security only quality update does not. So, if you are installing the security only quality update, here are the direct links to IE updates:
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/windows8.1-kb4092946-x86_6fe42ebb6fe90a167773ffd67be977e7df064bee.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/windows8.1-kb4092946-x64_d8e6dd8538fa274494042b95cfa20ec14bde51e2.msu
    
    Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 8.1 KB4093110 (10,2 MB / 20,8 MB)
    Code:
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/windows8.1-kb4093110-x86_f1e4a2e6c7ae14f6dd9c061626e08f820d86dd83.msu
    http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/secu/2018/04/windows8.1-kb4093110-x64_f9fa6d929d13b7d71670b3c79162c14321e6ac8c.msu
    
     
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    I installed April Cumulative Update on Windows 7 x64 and Updates for Office 2010 and didn't notice any problems so far.
     
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    Do you mean KB4093118, April 10, 2018, Monthly Rollup,
    or do you mean KB4092946, April 10, 2018, Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer?

    If you installed KB4093118, the Rollup, did you also install 'recommended' update KB4099950, of which the article says it must be installed before installing March KB4088875 Rollup or KB4088878 Security-only update? (N.B. In the KB4099950 article there is no reference to any need to install it before the April Rollup or Security-only update.)
     
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    I installed Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4093118).
    I did not install Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4099950) as it was listed as Optional. I decided to hide it for now, since I didn't encounter any problems.
     
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    Thanks very much for clarifying. :thumb:
    Regarding KB4099950, since some days it is marked as 'recommended'.
    If in Windows Update settings "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" is disabled, any 'recommended' updates will be offered as optional and shown in italics.
    I am still in doubt if I will install KB4099950 before installing KB4093118.
     
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    I don't use that setting enabled and prefer to install only important updates and recommended only when necessary. Mostly I just hide them.
    I usually take system image before updating - just in case that something goes wrong. You might try similar if you're not sure how to proceed.
     
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    Thanks, Minimalist.
    I too have that setting "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" disabled, and prefer to install only important updates and recommended only when necessary. I was unsure about installing 'recommended' update KB4099950.
    I too take system images, regularly, so that I can go back to the previous image if anything goes wrong.
    I decided to install 'recommended' update KB4099950 and reboot, before installing KB4093118. Updates completed with no issues, on my semi-test system. All looks well, so far. My other Windows 7 x64 system will be up next.
    Edit
    Same for my second Windows 7 x64 system:
    I first installed 'recommended' update KB4099950 and rebooted, and then installed KB4093118. Updates completed with no issues, and all looks well.
     
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    It looks as though the April Rollup KB4093118 includes update KB4100480 and KB4099467.

    KB4099950 is not in the rollup, as far as I can determine. I was not expecting it to be there as it is a script and you can not reverse the script once it is applied -AFAIK. Just makes sense.

    I still believe that KB4099950 has to be installed before the March update(s) - rollup or security-only.

    If you did not install the March rollup and went straight to the April rollup, then running KB4099950 before that update should work. IMO.
     
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    I think so, too.
    But in my case, KB4099950 was offered after I installed the March Rollup and I didn't want to uninstall that Rollup.
    I think it was no use installing KB4099950 after installing the March Rollup and before the April Rollup, but I decided to install KB4099950 anyway, just in case I had been lucky with the March Rollup but the April Rollup was out to get me. Very unlikely, but I decided to install KB4099950 anyway.
     
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    You are not alone - all the W7 users with WU set to auto install, the canaries and those who did not see the April 5 changes to the KB article. That has to be a huge number of people. The March update was installed on many systems and most users did not have an adverse experience. . I'd hazard a guess that the majority will not bother with KB4099950 because of this.

    IMO, if you install KB4099950 after the March update(s), it makes no changes to your system. It will indicate that it has installed successfully because it ran the script and a return condition was met. It patched nothing.
     
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    Microsoft Removes Antivirus Restriction on Windows 7
    Security updates now offered to all systems
    April 11, 2018

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-removes-antivirus-restriction-on-windows-7-520629.shtml
     
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