Bork Tuesday, Any Problems Yet?

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by Daveski17, Nov 12, 2014.

  1. itman

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    What AV's are installed on the PC's? MS is giving third-party AV vendors fits over verification requirements to receive Win updates.

    I know they required Eset to add an additional reg. key value to receive Feb. security updates in addition to the original one MS required to receive the Jan. Meltdown/Spectre Win updates.
     
  2. XIII

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    All are protected by Windows Defender and HitmanPro.Alert.

    The required registry key is present on all of them.

    Still only one properly updates...
     
  3. itman

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    Eset added this additional reg key after certifying their anti-rootkit module:

    HKLM\SOFTWARE\ESET\ESET Security\CurrentVersion\Info\WindowsCompatibilityLevel set to 1
    HMP-A might have to do something similar?
     
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    February 13, 2018—KB4074588 (OS Build 16299.248 )
    Applies to: Windows 10 version 1709
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4074588
     
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  6. XIII

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    The only PC that updated fine for me is running Windows 10 Home; all failing ones run Windows 10 Pro.

    Could that be a factor?

    (I’m baffled that they all get the Flash and malicious software updates; only the cumulative update seems to be failing)
     
  7. JoWazzoo

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    After the fiasco in January (screwed me up too) I have so far held off on the February Bork^H^H^H^H Updatefest. Can I now safely run them or not?
     
  8. itman

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    Only after offering up your PC soul to the Win Updates Voodoo God and saying 100 mea culpas:D
     
  9. Kerodo

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    Images are your best friend these days. I take a Macrium Reflect Free image right before every bork Tuesday just in case. That way if there are problems, you can restore the image and be back in business in just a few minutes... Been doing this for years now, and it has never failed me....
     
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    I've been using imaging since at least 15 years back. first it was norton ghost and then I discovered Clonezilla :). I really wonder why people don't use it more often, especially before updating and major changes.
     
  11. anon

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    The February patch for Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, version 1709, has drawn criticism and problem reports of many shades, from many corners.

     
  12. JoWazzoo

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    Well I have Win 7 and ran the "Updates" (after reviewing here and elsewhere) .... and BORKED my freaking machine. Of course. Afterwards No Internet Connection.

    Screwed around for ~ 3 hours (yes - I tried pretty much everything) and finally just said screw it and did a Restore to a point a day back. That fixed that problem. Of course now I have no idea of what the Restore affect is to the Updates. Or what else has been/will be Borked. Heh
     
  13. JoWazzoo

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    So all the updates are back and awaiting me. I guess I now go thru one at a time until I see which one of them hoses me again. Earlier I just installed them all (6) at once. My bad!
     
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    For me, no issue whatsoever after installing February's patch in W10 1709. If anything, the computer feels better.

    My W7, I updated it yesterday. As in January, the the monthly patch was not offered after checking for updates manually. As I did in January, I downloaded the package from the MS catalogue, all is well afterward. FWIW, the update I installed was KB4074587.

    In neither computer I have the now famous registry key, my guess is that in W10, WU is ignoring that fact and gives me the update. But in W7, Windows update is not offering the update after it checks for the key.

    Bo
     
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  15. JoWazzoo

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    I manually added the registry key :)
     
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    I didn't really see anyone else talking about this until a coworker brought in his PC for me to look at:
    Recent Windows 10 Update breaks USB Mouse and Keyboard on Dell 3040
    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/fo...e-breaks-usb-mouse-and-keyboard-on-dell-3040/

    It was KB4074588 that went out on the 13th. It was nasty to fix. If he didn't have System Restore enabled we would have needed to format it. He thought it was a hardware failure and was going to throw it out.
     
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    I tried again today with the Feb 13 Updates. Update offered to install 2 updates from 2015 that were telemetry BS! Those got hidden. So based on smallest KB number, I started one at a time with reboot after. First one locked up my machine with frozen mouse pointer. Hard reboot and Safe Mode Restore point again.. Screw their crap. Maybe my machine will be unsecure, but I am not dealing with any more of this Update JUNK.
     
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    KB4074588
    Windows 10 version 1709
    "Known issues" has been updated (February 24, 2018)
     
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    Regardless of the issues presented in that article, it doesn't seem they are affecting the majority of Fall Creators Update users. At least I haven't seen a lot people complaining online about it

    So, I don't think there's much for people to afraid of the upgrade.
     
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    Tell that to the guy that just brought me his Dell with no working keyboard and mouse for the second time in a week. They need to pull these updates or fix them immediately.
     
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    Not for Wilders members, I agree, but we have lots of forum visitors who could be having issues, and these articles help them find out what is happening to their PCs.
     
  24. Peter2150

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    Shame on Microsoft. If they force people to take upgrades they need to do a better job on the upgrades. While I realize that's difficult for them then the policy has to change
     
  25. itman

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    In regards to Win 10 1709 KB4074588, appears the problems relate to servicing stack issues. Microsoft has been issuing separate service stack updates in the Win Update Catalog. The latest one for x64 was KB4087256. I downloaded this from the catalog and applied it prior to the KB4074588 update and have had no issues. Technically speaking, one does not need to apply the stand-alone service stack updates since supposedly, those updates are included in the cumulative update. The service stack update is used when Windows is updated in an unloaded state. However, I have seen enough that I will continue to apply the service stack update prior to any cumulative update.
     
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