Russia's anti-VPN law comes into effect

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  1. Minimalist

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    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/31/russias_vpn_law_comes_into_effect/
     
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    Wonder if this will have some effect on Adguard later on?
     
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    Remember this?
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/13/obama-gives-away-internet-and-it-our-liberty/

    Me thinks it's coming to America as well.
     
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    This makes me wonder about the fact that Kaspersky's suites come with Kaspersky Secure Connection (rebadged Hotspot Shield). Is it now illegal for them to use it in their own country?
     
  8. RockLobster

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    I would think so but I'm sure the Russian people will find a way around it.
     
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    The meme that the Internet was a US invention is grossly simplistic as well (offensively so). It had many contributors across the world, and international standards precursors and contemporaries (X.25 and the OSI standards). Its manifestations and predominance were dictated as much by money and power as anything else, and superior technical approaches were dismissed on non-technical grounds.
     
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    That is as it may be, and, yes, it is true to say that no one country could be solely responsible for something as global as the Internet. But as far as I understand it, the first 'practical' example was US sourced; limited and crude it may well have been but nonetheless the first...of many further development and initiatives by many people from many countries. :)
     
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    There appears to be some either-or thinking with these things, perhaps to appeal to simplistic media narratives (which the article quoted debunks). Whereas I think it would be accurate to say that the US was the dominant player in the funding, development, implementation and roll-out of TCP/IP, that's not to say that a whole load of other people & standards have been involved and influential both before, during and after - just as Vince says really.

    OSI certainly was over-complicated at the time - inevitably, as it was the child of the PTTs, who were desperate not to lose their hugely profitable circuit-switching cash-cow business and responded with characteristically glacial inertia (hence their demise in many cases). But from a framework point-of-view it has been very influential. It was also (at that time), limited by hardware constraints and unreliability. The development of the internet would have been much slower if OSI had been adopted, but it might well have been less US dominated. Commercially, there were also dominant if ephemeral things like Novell's IPX protocols which were market leaders for a while (on IP).

    If one was starting from scratch today, it'd be from none of these standards!
     
  14. Stefan Froberg

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    "China has decided it should block any information that does not reflect the country's "core socialist values" – something that swiftly led to it cutting off access to Japanese animations and South Korean soap operas as well as banning Justin Bieber from performing in the country due to his "bad behavior.""

    Nice to see that they do at least something right ... :D
    Otherwise it's all going straight to hell ... not really surprised, took them longer than I tought.

    Oh, well...
    Crypto-anarchism and mesh networks, here we come.
    And failing that, there is always RFC1149 and RFC2549 :D

    https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2549
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149
     
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    Wooow! :eek:
    That's real nice :)

    Adapting to that model would fix the package loss by cats :D
    But what would the latency and range be?

    In original biological model throughtput is great (can easily carry 256 GB MicroSDXC) and range superb but unfortunately latency sucks :(
     
  17. Minimalist

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    Russia to Fine Search Engines for Linking to Banned VPN services
    https://thehackernews.com/2018/06/russian-vpn-services.html
     
  18. mirimir

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    Can Russia fine Google? Wouldn't Google just leave, as it left China? If it has any substantive presence there now.
     
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    I think it was inevitable this would happen given the geopolitical climate.
     
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