Sandboxie Acquired by Invincea

@bo
the problem is not the license - the problem is to determine which process need to start in sandboxie.
i know what 1211/1303 means - i am a very early user i have my own dev-tools on sandboxie.

sandboxie throws a PID but the PID is not present when looking in taskmanager - blocked or terminated.
this behavior is new and was not regular on windows before she installed it from scratch.

the message popup is no help.

 

Some mitigations are still in effect (PrivGuard, CredGuard, CryptoGuard, ...)
Excluding applications doesn't help in this case, only disabling of "PrivGuard" helps.

 

My PrivGuard detections all seemed to point to SBIE, so I was interested to see if excluding SBIE processes would remove these detections, with PrivGuard reenabled
But you are right, I still get them, so I have disabled PrivGuard again.

(And CredGuard is otherwise disabled, due to issues with imaging).

 

Well, for me it's simple, if it can't be sandboxed via SBIE, I won't be using the browser. I would never rely on a browser's own sandbox.

 

always helpfull!!! I turned to bitdefender, same problem. Cleaned the sandbox content and now firefox works. I wonder if sandbox content cleaning would have worked with avast update, but now I am a bit lazy to test it.

 

Its sounding like perhaps the problem was not caused by an Avast update but a Firefox update. If you dont set the sandbox to delete automatically on closing the browser, (sometimes) this can cause issues when you update the browser. You dont want to run an updated Firefox in a sandbox that has old content of the previous Firefox version. So, now you know, next time you update Firefox, delete the sandbox manually before running the updated version of Firefox in the sandbox. Avast is probably OK now.

Bo

 

@bp elam

Confirm. The sandbox should be cleaned before any update. I confirm that avast works too.

 

I am glad you are all good now.

Bo

 

Sandboxie 5.20 doesn't work for me running 16299.19 (yes, Fall CU with additional cumulative update). This is the issue with Internet Explorer, it doesn't fully launch. Already un/reinstalled twice. Clearing the window just spawns another message.

 

This is a known issue and they are working on it:

 

I am doing the update now, I ll tell you later if I can reproduce the error you get running IE in a sandbox.

You should post about the SBIE 2101 message you got in the thread below. What you saw is not listed as a known issue, so it ll be helpful you post about it. I seen that 2101 message sometimes in W10 when launching Firefox, but it can be ignored and doesn't hurt anything in any way.
https://forums.sandboxie.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=25001#p130657

I was going to wait a couple of weeks before forcing the update but seeing your error and not seeing anyone else reporting anything (good or bad) about this update and SBIE, kind of made me want to check it out sooner than later. Likely, something is not going to workout alright but for errors and issues to get fixed, they have to be reported. So, I am updating now only because I want to help Sandboxie be compatible with the Fall Creators Update as soon as possible.

Bo

 

@mood: OK, very good. Reassuring also, I have gotten attached to Sbie.

@bo elam: Yes, I checked the Sandboxie forums like four hours ago and nothing relevant was reported there at the time. I am sorry you are updating Windows against your real inclination. I also regret it; the above primary machine downloaded the Fall CU twice and attempted to install it when it was already done. I'll see about posting this Sandboxie issue, OK? Thank you.

Edit: I installed the beta 5.21-4 contained in your link, @bo elam and this was successful in resolving the Internet Explorer problem, at least for the time being. You were advised there to install the beta and then reply if the issue persisted. Like mood stated, they are aware of it.

 

I am back, so far all seems well. I wanted to wait like 2 weeks to update, that is unless Windows updates updated my laptop automatically. I clicked WU a few times during the day, and only got the Flash update. But the waiting for the update (same thing happened waiting for CU) makes me kind of restless. You want to get it over with, thats how I felt when I got my new laptop on July 8th. I forced the update to CU 10 days later. So, I am happy this update is done.

By the way, the known issue is about using the right clicking function while running Windows explorer sandboxed, Not Internet explorer. As of right now, there is no known or reported issue regarding sandboxig Internet explorer in the FCU.

I am writing this post using Firefox, all seems well. I viewed a few videos in YouTube, same result. The only program I ran so far is Firefox, I want to do another reboot before testing IE and the rest of my programs.

Bo

 

I tell you guys, officially Sandboxie doesn't support Fall Creators Update as of yet, but I am able to run every program I run, and every function I do with Sandboxie on a regular basis without any problem. The only exception being running Windows explorer sandboxed. I dont right click Explorer to run it sandboxed but instead, I have a sandboxed shortcut that when I click it, a sandboxed version of Windows explorer runs sandboxed automatically. As it is now, Windows explorer doesnt run inmediatedly as usually. I guess you have to wait 5 minutes for explorer to run. Other than that, Sandboxie is working beautifully in my laptop with the FCU.

I tested Firefox, Internet Explorer 11, Libre Office, 7Zip, Foxit, Windows media player, my ancient version of KMPlayer and Irfan view. Also forcing USB drives and my Downloads folder worked just fine. I even found things that are working better than before. For example, running files with Libre Office programs have always been pretty slow to open up running when you click on a file but with the FCU, I feel Libre opening faster sandboxed or unsandboxed. I can see the difference, clear cut.

Bo

 

I am running the Fall Creators Update from today. I had the error shown above with Sandboxie 5.20 so I have upgraded to the latest beta version 5.21.4.

I now have the issue that dllhost.exe wants to run with Firefox (v56.0). Previously only Firefox (and Keepass) could run in the sandbox. I have added permission for dllhost.exe for now but ideally I would like to deny it permission to run.

 

Thats not an issue, pling man. Its perfectly normal for dllhost to run in some instances. You can either allow it to run in Sandbox settings or click Hide to hide the message. Firefox still functions fine without allowing dllhost, so you can hide the message if you prefer.

Bo

 

Thanks Bo.

Previously I have seen dllhost running only with the flash plug in installed. But I don't use flash anymore. Perhaps dllhost is needed for SmartScreen to work with Firefox? I have allowed it for now and will look into this again once Firefox is at version 57 and Sandboxie supports the FCU properly.

One question though: If I choose to hide the message (by double clicking on the message) does it hide it only for dllhost or for all programs that are not allowed to run?

 

If you double click on the dllhost message, it only hides that message. And only for the sandbox you are using when you do it. It doesn't get hidden globally. Read this thread about dllhost and Sandboxie from a couple of days ago.
https://forums.sandboxie.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=24994

Bo

 

Actually, @Mister X already recommended using the beta version; really, it takes a scenario like this to understand the value of the advice. Since the beta is also working exceptionally well so far with Fall CU, I'll gladly override my rule of no betas on my primary machine.

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/sandboxie-acquired-by-invincea.357312/page-163#post-2710496

 

Bo, i need your help please. win764bit,norton ns22.11(toolbar always disabled), voodooshield3.59, unchecky1.1, sandboxie5.20, ff56.0.1(64bit) with UBO 1.14.14, adobe flashplayer 27...170(ask to activate). i visit a few sites that require flashplayer, but now after firefox updated to 56.0.1, i cannot get videos to play while in sandboxie(flashplayer is activated). it closes and returns me to the desktop. the videos play great unsandboxed. everything was working great until the update.i'm thinking now the 32bit to 64bit firefox might be the cause. i tried 3 different ff profiles but they all acted the same. i uninstalled/reinstalled sandboxie and flashplayer-disabled vs-nothing. 1, firefox(flash activated)-pbs.org-videos-great performances(works great) 2. sandboxie-ff(flash on)-pbs.org-videos-great performances--closes out and returns to desktop. any ideas-thanks edit: sandboxie-ie11-pbs.org-videos-great performanes-works great

 

Hi topo, if you dont set your Firefox sandbox to delete automatically when you close Firefox, then perhaps all you need to do is delete the sandbox to fix your issue. After updating browsers, you should always delete the sandbox manually if you dont. Otherwise, you might run into problems.

Personally, I am not having any issues with flash or watching videos with Firefox in W10 or W7. But I am using Firefox 32 bits. The 32 bits version works better with Sandboxie. Perhaps try switching back. It is possible the switch messed up your flash in the sandbox experience but I cant know for sure. I am going to try to stay with the 32 bits version, for me it works great. By the way, I tried testing pbs.org.videos but couldn't as I am not allowed to plays videos from there due to where I live/Location.

Bo

 

Absolutely, betas work great. With W0, you should always be using the latest beta. They are more up todate with the changes that are continously taking place in W10. I am glad to hear that like me, you are having a nice experience with Sandboxie in the FCU.

Bo

 

bo, thanks for your reply. i'm using the free version of sandboxie and i do have it set to delete auto.i wanted to stay with 32 bit, but ff auto changed it to 64bit. i can view html5 videos in sandboxie perfectly, it's just flashplayer vids in sandboxed firefox giving me trouble. i saw 1 thread in sandboxie forum of someone also having trouble with ff,sbie, and flashplayer. not the same problem as mine but thinking may be similar. my win10 updated today and i'm also having the above stated issues. i know sbie is aware. i love sandboxie and i can work around this. with flash on the way out, i understand not much effort would be put into this. can i still get a 32bit firefox? thanks again.

 

Topo, yeah, you can go back to Firefox 32 bits. Get the installer from the link below.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/

What I did to avoid getting migrated to 64 bits was to do an over the top installation. It worked. I think Mozillas plan was to force migration ONLY in the upgrade to 56.0.1. In later updates, if you are using 32 bits, they ll leave the installation alone. But to make sure, I will do over the tops for a while,but eventually sometime in the future I ll update using the updater from within the browser to see what happens. I ll probably do this test after Firefox 57 is out as at that time, I ll probably be ready to create a new profile. So, when I do the test, it wont matter what happens.

The people you mention that are also having flash issues are using the 64 bits version of Firefox. Everyone. Switch back, and forget about the headache. Do a clean install of Firefox 32 bits, I am 100% sure you wont have the flash issue anymore. Firefox 32 bits gets along better with SBIE than the 64 bits.

I can watch anything I want with flash, I dont care what it is, if I want to watch it, it works. And almost everyone that have issues with Firefox in SBIE are using the 64 bits version. When I got my W10, I installed the 32 bits version of Firefox to make sure I avoided issues. And so far, I had none.

Bo

 

Sandboxie 5.21.6 has been released. Fixes and improvements for Sandboxie in Fall Creators Update.

https://forums.sandboxie.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=24741#p129389

I encourage you to report any issue you find between Sandboxie and the Fall Creators Update in the Windows 10 Fall Update thread at the Sandboxie forum. Keep in mind, you need Sandboxies latest beta if you are using FCU.
https://forums.sandboxie.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=25001

Bo