AV's now a step too far ???

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by 4L3X, Jul 21, 2017.

  1. trott3r

    trott3r Registered Member

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    I was thinking the same with regards to using AVs that are in foreign hands.

    I wonder where zemana lies now since its in turkey and they are cosying up to russia
     
  2. Daveski17

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    lol
     
  3. itman

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    As far as I am concerned, digital based platforms and privacy are oxymoron's. Privacy simply will never exist using this medium. If you want privacy, start using carrier pigeons to send and receive your communications. The worse that can happen is some predator on the way eats them and also your note they have in their possession.:D

    AV protection is about security of a particular digital platform.
     
  4. Daveski17

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    I'm not one normally for the tinfoil hat brigade, but I found this suspicious as well. I'm fairly positive my next desktop will be Linux.
     
  5. RockLobster

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    If you read the things the tinfoil hat brigade were saying 15- 20 years ago and compare that with what we now know is factual you will find they were right about a lot of it.
    A tip from an old
    tinfoil hat brigade member, choose your Linux distro carefully, do not assume the Linux community has not been infiltrated by those who wish to undermine its security and privacy potential.
     
  6. aztony

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    Which Linux distros have fallen victim(s) to this present day malady? In your opinion...
     
  7. RockLobster

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    Debian and all its forks, Ubuntu etc
    You only have to take a close look at the dmcrypt implementation.
    Unchangeable master key that can be dumped to file, the attack surface that alone creates for an attacker is huge. There are other obvious weaknesses too if you really look at it.
     
  8. zapjb

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    Everybody does it. Some don't share about it & others lie about. Yea I'm talking about you Apple. And others.

    Everybodies pwned only differs by who pwned you (& me) 1st & who's sharing. Your privacy is over.

    The next horrific boundary to be crossed is when "they" can read our minds. I don't doubt it.

    Instead of now 99.99% of us giving it away for free on InstaSnapTwitFace.
     
  9. hawki

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    @zapjb

    You do have a way with words :)

    LMAO

    Thanks. With all the heaviness that has been flooding the intertubes these days, I really needed that :)
     
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  10. zapjb

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    TY & YW hawki.

    I mix the hard truths with laughter as have been proven that "those" obfuscate & the masses have to believe "those" happy ************* for peace of mind.

    It makes me sick. So I try to make others & myself (that's a tough gig) laugh. I think with laughter some might not turn a blind eye as 99.99% currently do.
     
  11. RockLobster

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    Yes it is a massive, full on blatant assault on everyones privacy that is why I say be careful of linux, especially the distros that are pushed as being user friendly to windows users. They have invested a huge amount of time, effort and money into this subterfuge, there is just no chance at all that Linux has not been a target.
    You might notice if you Google "Linux closed source" there is a big campaign to get the Linux community to accept more closed source software.
    Make no mistake about this, there is only one reason for that.
    Closed source hides functionality.
     
  12. imdb

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    that boundary's already been crossed.
     
  13. boredog

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    I agree with you and everyone must remember the very first rootkit was aimed at UNIX. The bad guys are going after Linux now more then ever. OH and how I remember those old tinfoil hat days. When we talked about rootkits and were shamed by security experts. Then came owning hardware. Then came fileless malware. It never ends. That is why I upgraded my Tinfoil hat to the gold version, with a grounding strap. a tinfoil hat alone does nothing. It has to be grounded to kill any wave that come in.:thumb:
     
  14. Daveski17

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    I'm running Ubuntu at the moment.
     
  15. mirimir

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    Well, that's what I've said for years about VPN services :) It's really the same issue.
    Right. Although some of the push back makes sense, as you say, for government and defense-related corporate stuff.
    Well, I see the package ...
    ... but I've never used it. And it can't MitM TLS, so you'd miss a lot. But maybe there's a hack for that.
    Well, I don't actually do anything on the host except update system and VirtualBox, and backup VMs, so hey. And anyway, it runs Debian :)
     
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    Thnx for that article @mirimir :thumb:

    I agree, you could add Bitdefender to the list. :)
     
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