VoodooShield/Cyberlock

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by CloneRanger, Dec 7, 2011.

  1. Gandalf_The_Grey

    Gandalf_The_Grey Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2012
    Posts:
    1,236
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    Sorry, it was I who was confused, left, right... difficult :(
    It a good idea to have some options for the left click :thumb:
     
  2. Nitty Kutchie

    Nitty Kutchie Registered Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2015
    Posts:
    160
    Hi Dan how are you. I'm having some problems with VS blocking Google Chrome reporter tool sometimes can you please fix that.:thumb:
     
  3. VoodooShield

    VoodooShield Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Posts:
    5,881
    Location:
    United States
    Cool... and we might not want the shield images, we might just want a simplified contextual menu for the left click. Either way, it is super easy to implement.

    I do like how the left click simply toggles VS's mode, so maybe it would be best to just add the option in the "LeftClick2" image from above, who knows ;).
     
  4. VoodooShield

    VoodooShield Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Posts:
    5,881
    Location:
    United States
    Yeah, I need to hardwire that in, the same way the other browser's dependencies are hardwired in. If you click allow, it should remember the item... does it not? I have to reset my whitelist pretty much every day for dev reasons, so I get that block all of the time ;).
     
  5. _CyberGhosT_

    _CyberGhosT_ Registered Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2015
    Posts:
    457
    Location:
    MalwareTips "Your Security Advisor"
    Could not have said it better, and I was about to try. Thank you. :thumb:
     
  6. Triple Helix

    Triple Helix Specialist

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2004
    Posts:
    13,458
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    Always happy to help Buddy! :D
     
  7. Nitty Kutchie

    Nitty Kutchie Registered Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2015
    Posts:
    160
    It does not remember allow Dan it blocks it randomly.:thumb:
     
  8. _CyberGhosT_

    _CyberGhosT_ Registered Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2015
    Posts:
    457
    Location:
    MalwareTips "Your Security Advisor"
    I have noticed this too with stuff like , notepad it will not remember my last input, and I have cleaned out my VS recently.
     
  9. VoodooShield

    VoodooShield Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Posts:
    5,881
    Location:
    United States
    Hmmm, that is odd. The next time that happens, can you guys please:

    1. Click Details and let me know what the Parent Process is?

    2. Then click Block, then go into the VoodooShield settings and see if the blocked item is currently on the whitelist?

    Thank you guys!
     
  10. Cutting_Edgetech

    Cutting_Edgetech Registered Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Posts:
    5,696
    Location:
    USA
    I have noticed that Microsoft Office Suite Applications are not listed under Web Apps. Are they being covered by some other means? VS Whitelisting AE, and Exploit Mitigation should be enabled when using those applications in Smart Mode.
     
  11. VoodooShield

    VoodooShield Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Posts:
    5,881
    Location:
    United States
    Yeah, ALL of the office suites (along with TONS of other common apps) are hardwired in and protected, but since they are not the primary app that is part of the attack vector, they do not automatically toggle VS ON and OFF.

    Basically, you will never become infected by simply creating your own Word document... it is only when a web app like a web browser or email client is involved, that there is a risk. For example, you might receive a weaponized Word document in Outlook, so there is a risk.

    But even if you download the weaponized Word document, then close Outlook, VS will toggle to OFF, but Word is still protected.

    Does that make sense?
     
  12. Cutting_Edgetech

    Cutting_Edgetech Registered Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Posts:
    5,696
    Location:
    USA
    The only part that does not make sense to me now is how VS is going to protect the System if the weaponized word document is downloaded, and the Mail Client is closed. The user is going to open the document later when the Mail Client is not running so VS is not going to toggle to ON.
     
  13. Nitty Kutchie

    Nitty Kutchie Registered Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2015
    Posts:
    160
    Here is a similar problem with Google Chrome "Software reporter tool" (https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/voodooshield.313706/page-416 ) complaint is Krusty. Software reporter tool parent is google chrome.

    Software_reporter_tool.exe is located in a subfolder of the user's profile folder.
    The program is not visible. The file has a digital signature. The file is not a Windows system file. It is a Verisign signed file.
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2017
  14. VoodooShield

    VoodooShield Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Posts:
    5,881
    Location:
    United States
    When VS is in Smart / OFF mode, there are a lot of protections that are still in place, and this is one of them. Smart / OFF mode acts pretty much exactly the way AutoPilot does... if something is perfectly safe to allow (after passing blacklist, VoodooAi, and other checks), then it is auto allowed.

    But when the user is browsing the web or checking email, the system needs to be locked down in a higher security posture, and all new, non-whitelisted items are automatically blocked.

    VS's automatic toggling helps tremendously with usability by automatically allowing items that are acceptable to auto allow, while blocking items when the computer is at risk.

    Think of it as automatically toggling from Protected to Locked Down, when the computer is at risk, or it is not. See what I mean?
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2017
  15. VoodooShield

    VoodooShield Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Posts:
    5,881
    Location:
    United States
    Hmmm, I thought we had that fixed long ago... there might be a different bug that is causing that. Either way, web browser dependencies should be hardwired in, and I will do that soon. Thank you!
     
  16. Cutting_Edgetech

    Cutting_Edgetech Registered Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Posts:
    5,696
    Location:
    USA
    So if the weaponized document is a zero day threat, and somehow manages to no be detected by blacklist, and VoodooAi there is a chance it would be allowed in Smart Mode, or Autopilot Mode?
     
  17. VoodooShield

    VoodooShield Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Posts:
    5,881
    Location:
    United States
    No, all items that are unknown to the blacklist (zero days) are automatically blocked either way... I do not take any chances.

    The only time something like this might happen is when all of the 60+ engines miss the threat, and VoodooAi misses it as well (when VS is on AutoPilot or Smart OFF). This does happen on a very, very rare occasion, but it is pretty much always a PUP. The blacklist and VoodooAi are truly a great combo... the blacklist is great with detecting known threats and VoodooAi is great with detecting unknown / zero day threats. Basically if one misses it, the other one almost always catches it.

    When VS is ON, it does not matter either way, because if the file is not on the whitelist, it is going to be blocked.

    Which is essentially what VS has been about all along... the computer needs to be locked when it is at risk ;).

    If the computer is not locked when it is at risk, you are simply taking a chance. Which is why I probably would never be able to work for a security vendor who does not lock the computer when it is at risk... my stomach would turn knowing that because the computer is not locked when it is at risk, there will almost certainly be infections.
     
  18. VoodooShield

    VoodooShield Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Posts:
    5,881
    Location:
    United States
    I really need to get back to work... but everyone have a great weekend, talk to you soon! Thank you guys!
     
  19. Cutting_Edgetech

    Cutting_Edgetech Registered Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Posts:
    5,696
    Location:
    USA
    So if VS Shield says OFF, VS will block an executable attempting to execute if the executable has never been seen before by VS?
     
  20. Nitty Kutchie

    Nitty Kutchie Registered Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2015
    Posts:
    160
    Ok no sweat be careful champ.:thumb:
     
  21. Cutting_Edgetech

    Cutting_Edgetech Registered Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Posts:
    5,696
    Location:
    USA
    Ok, have a good weekend.
     
  22. VoodooShield

    VoodooShield Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Posts:
    5,881
    Location:
    United States
    Well, if the new non-whitelisted file passes the blacklist, VoodooAi and other checks, it will be auto allowed when VS is in Smart OFF mode. VS also automatically allows TONS of command lines and other items when it is in Smart OFF mode, but only when it is safe to do so.

    But when VS is in Always ON or Smart ON mode, a new non-whitelisted item will automatically be blocked, and the blacklist, VoodooAi, digital signature, parent process, etc. file insight will be availble to the user so they can make an informed decision. Along with a user recommendation on the corresponding button.

    BTW, I just wanted to mention... the ON and OFF on the desktop shield gadget simply tells you whether the lock is ON or OFF.
     
  23. boredog

    boredog Registered Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2015
    Posts:
    2,499
    When Dan says he needs to get back to work , please stop posting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
     
  24. rdsu

    rdsu Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2003
    Posts:
    4,540
    @VoodooShield ,

    can you add Vivaldi browser to your default Web Apps?

    Thanks
     
  25. guest

    guest Guest

    I guess it will be added soon:
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice