New SMB Worm Uses Seven NSA Hacking Tools. WannaCry Used Just Two

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  1. Minimalist

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    It's Windows 7 x64. I will try to find what's the reason for that in my virtual machine when I get some time.
     
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    Same here as I just posted in the previous reply.
     
  3. Peter2150

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    Interesting. Could this be a result of one of the rollup updates on Win 7.
     
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    To disable SMB protocol, all versions. For Win 7 / 8.1 / 10:

     
  5. Peter2150

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    I have powershell neutered. Besides the win 7 systems don't seem to have that protocol
     
  6. FanJ

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    I have tried that what petok posted, some days ago on Win-7. It didn't work, at least on my end for whatever reason. That doesn't have to mean that it will also not work on other systems!
    And then I restored a backup image.
     
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  7. Mr.X

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    Guess and hope you are talking to your own scenario only.
    This solution works.
     
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    Hi Mister X,
    Yes, I was only talking about my situation.
    I didn't want to offend anyone !!

    Edit: I have edited that post to tell that it didn't work on my system, and that that doesn't have to mean that it will also not work on other systems.
     
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    These attacks are not a surprise at all to me. I'm sure the NSA has been using these exploits for a long time. What I don't understand is why it took so long to discover them.

    I warned Eset about how dangerous SMB is, two years ago. The wording for their IDS settings sounded like they were allowing incoming connections by SMB to Admin Shares, Remote Registry, etc..IMO it was a bad description of the settings on Eset's part, but I thought my eyeballs were going to pop out when I looked at the default settings! lol

    I don't know why any home user would ever want to allow connections to Admin Shares, Remote Registry, etc., without being prompted, and if they are in Automatic Mode they will not receive prompts. I was informed that, "all non-initiated incoming communication attempts are blocked", but how can you determine that it's not an attacker initiating the connections. I think it would be safer to operate in Interactive Mode. https://forum.eset.com/topic/4693-lots-of-allowed-services-in-esets-firewall/#comment-26923
     

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    On Win 7 systems??
     
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    It sounds to me that they are monitoring only outbound connection but leave inbound blocking to windows firewall. So if attacker from network would try to exploit SMB flow, it would be blocked by Windows firewall which has incoming packets to SMB ports blocked.
    Personally I would probably block it in ESET's settings also.
     
  15. Peter2150

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    Unless that info is updated as of this week, I don't see it applying. I looked at all that and none of it is here to disable. I have a hunch in one of the recent updates MS removed a lot of that stuff. I noticed a lot of clean up.

    In any case not worried as EIS has it covered in the Firewall, File Guard and Behavior blocker
     
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    Eset uses it's own packet filter driver, independent of Windows Firewall to monitor inbound, and outbound traffic unless this just recently changed.
     
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    I was quoting Marcos from forum thread that you posted:
     
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    Sorry I posted a wrong link. This is correct: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...smbv2-and-smbv3-in-windows-and-windows-server

    Updated on May 19, 2017. Look down at the bottom.
    So it's not useless.
     
  19. Minimalist

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    OK, I got it. So Add/Remove programs method is only available on Windows 8.1 and 10. For Windows 7 sc.exe config is the way to do it.
     
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    Yes. Anyways, do it in all cases from cmd sc.exe config, no need of add/remove method.
     
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    Yes, I've done it after not finding it in add/remove section. I didn't know that option was not present on Windows 7 and thought that I somehow removed it when tweaking my system. :)
     
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    I know it might be kinda confusing on Windows 7. However you've got your answer now.

    HTH.
     
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    Yes, thanks for clarifying. :thumb:
     
  24. Peter2150

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    Still somewhat confused. That latest article shows how to allow and disallow by modifying a registry key. But none of that stuff is even present. So the question is still is SMB1 even on the system or was it removed by a system update, which has removed a lot of old updates from my system
     
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