VoodooShield/Cyberlock

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by CloneRanger, Dec 7, 2011.

  1. Triple Helix

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    No need for VoodooAi standalone IMO as VS is in the market to make money right Dan? Isn't it available in VS free? People may ask for free stuff but at some point you do want to take some of us to Vegas right? :) So you need cash!
     
  2. illumination

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    Certainly agree with this and would never advise anyone different.

    This was the intended direction of my question/statement. ;) :)

    In response to the underlined. The free version of VS would need to be mostly disabled and even then interference could occur. Depending on what number of samples V2 will allow to scan at one time" but in V1 the sample set was set at 50 a time.

    It would be more proficient to use the standalone to help "feed" the data sets.
     
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  3. VoodooShield

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    Yeah, VoodooAi is free in the free version of VS, but the portable version would let you analyze a lot of files at once. Yeah, at some point I need to focus on making money for the investors, and to be able to afford a trip to Vegas for everyone ;). We have a lot of options in the works... for both Desktop and Mobile / IoT's. The funny thing is that the most difficult part is to get them to actually install VS on their own computers, so they can experience what it is all about for a few days. As you guys know, the real goal of VS is to make sure that every web connected device is locked when it is at risk... and I am assuming we will make some money in the process. Thank you TH!
     
  4. VecchioScarpone

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    Dan
    In regard the above statement.
    Will Apps like Skype, Qbittorrent, Potplayers and other that are not we browsers or Email Clients, but do interact with the web be protected, locked?
    Even if not added on the Web Apps feature ? Ref: snapshot attached.
    Thanks
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  5. guest

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    So just remove it from Home User version and create a business/enterprise version. Anyway money comes from businesses , not home users. :D
     
  6. _CyberGhosT_

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    ?? Really guest, novice suggestion if I ever saw one.
    Dan ignore him he must be on the glue again rofl
     
  7. guest

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    Sorry mate, but give me one Average Joe that fully understanding cuckoo sandbox ? you won't find one. so what the point of keeping it , SMB needs it? well, they should buy (at higher price) the business version which has it.

    - Norton for home users > SEP for businesses is main income.
    - Win10 home (no special features) is free > Windows Ent (Applocker, GP, Hyper-V, LTSB) is main income
    - Appguard Consumer (2% of sales) > Appguard tailored corporate version (98% of the sales)

    Should i go further? When you create a product , you adapt it to your main market and if a second market appears, you adapt it again.
    If the 2nd market can gives more incomes , you increase the price and add something that worth the increased prices.

    I'm sure Dan will get more incomes and less troubles/support expenses if he can sells 100 license of "VS enterprise" at 20$ to one company than 100 "VS home users " at 15$ to 100 people (whose may don't like it or understand it, and eventually ask a refund)...

    This is business. So i don't really see what "novice" aspect you see.

    Anyway just my opinion, Dan decide what is best for him.
     
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  8. _CyberGhosT_

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    I am so relieved that Dan makes this decision, and his reasoning he posted up there obviously did not penetrate your cranium.
    I won't echo his reasoning, as I am not a parrot, but I would like to add, how many came here a "average Joe" the point is they will learn, just as you did, I did , and many others, and to deny them that is a dis-service.
    I often agree with you and you know that, but hey brother, take it for what it's worth to you ;)
     
  9. guest

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    stay respectful, don't assume without knowing. Thanks.
     
  10. gorblimey

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    Dan actually used the word "devices", which I translate as hardware: desktop, laptop, -pad, even unto (smart)phones and IoT like your fridge or aircon.

    Having said that, after reading your post, I counted all the "web-facing" apps on my desktop, 18 in all, not counting Java and Flash as those must be invoked from another, web-facing, app.

    Email is a contentious security issue, and I like many others have seen some shockers foisted onto gullible users. Netscape was particularly bad, and OE just behind it. But it taught me one lesson: you'll never get an infection if you use the email app to strip all the HTML and scripting from all messages; and if you can't do that (not all email clients are truly civilised) then at least disable the preview panel. Preview is exactly actually opening the letter, thus enabling any scripting to do its job. I fell in love with Jeff Beckley's Eudora, dumped it when Qualcomm decided to go Thunderbird and switched to Gammadyne Clyton. CLyton is AFAIK the only HSB email client offering full TLS encryption, and it also allows to strip HTML. To defeat any possible current undetected infection, I've also set it to make only plaintext outgoing. And FWIW, my preferred server is Fastmail.com which is itself fully TLS encrypted.

    The only apps I've registered with VS are my browsers. FTP and IRC could be problematic, but ATM I don't use them. P2P has never been a problem security-wise--we did once get an mp3 with malware embedded, but that needed to be opened in WMP which caused all sorts of porn dramas--but all P2P does is go get the files, so no worries there.

    Did I miss anything?
     
  11. _CyberGhosT_

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    Agreed, I will be a good boy :p
    But you have to admit removing it on your insights would be counter productive and I am sure Dan sees that as well.
     
  12. illumination

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    I believe that Novices will not use this feature.

    With that said, I'm also a person that takes in the "full" picture when observing, and with this in mind, would like to point out that many of us here are usually the "go to" people that our friends and families come to or call when issues arise on their systems. This tool "Cuckoos" then becomes quite valuable when you get that call and have to go verify something on their system. Then you have your intermediate to advanced users that will use VS who would take advantage of such a tool. So to keep this short, I believe it is fine right where it is.
     
  13. _CyberGhosT_

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    +1 Well put L'dub
     
  14. VecchioScarpone

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    @gorblimey
    Thanks for your elaboration, very instructive and much welcome.
    And I doubt you missed anything.
    :)
     
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    Thank you.
     
  16. VoodooShield

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    I agree… a VS mobile app would be killer since most mobile devices handle one app at a time. If you are playing angry birds, your device is unlocked. But if you are surfing the web or checking email, the device is locked. It would be completely seamless to the end user. Basically, the toggling is even more defined compared to a desktop version of VS ;).
     
  19. _CyberGhosT_

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    +1 :thumb:
     
  20. guest

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    I dont think so taking into account the amount of legit background apps doing something behind. If I'm browsing I want to still receive notifications from the other apps.
     
  21. VoodooShield

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    I am not sure what you mean... you will still receive notification from other apps. But VS would work exactly the way it does on the PC version... it would take a snapshot of your system to create a tiny, customized whitelist. Then as soon as the device is at risk, anything that is not on the tiny, customized whitelist is blocked.

    For example, as far as I know, mobile OS's simply block by digital signature... I think we need to do better than that ;).
     
  22. LoneWolf

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    VooDoo Shield Mobile, Yeah I'd buy that.
     
  23. VoodooShield

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    I have had a few people ask me about fileless malware... these are the basic powershell and other script based attacks, and VS does extremely well with these. And actually VS considers ALL Windows processes (along with a huge list of other standard processes) vulnerable processes, so when hackers start exploiting another vulnerable processes, which seems to happen a couple of times a year, VS already has it covered.
     
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    Nice! :cool:
     
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