Mint 18.1 - I need some advice for initial steps

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  1. act8192

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    Thinkpad laptop. Mint 18.1 joined my Windows 7 and 10.
    Legacy boot. Not UEFI. Live Mint worked fine from flash, so I decided to install. Window 7 and 10 have bootloaders which were called by some booting file on the System_Drv partition. I have a long delay for selecting OS.

    I first used GParted to setup mint partitions. During Mint installation I saw no option to not do anything about grub(v2). So it's now on top of the booting chain which clearly replaced what existed before. And all systems boot and work fine.

    - if windows upgrade destroys grub, how will I fix it?
    - how can I edit grub's delay from its 10 seconds which is often too short
    - is there a program to image just the Mint root partition - I suspect I should do this before I start messing it up?
    - when i change few preferences, such as time zone, power settings, or add a printer or something, do such changes go into the user area or under root system?

    It's a lovely system, but I don't have a box to experiment on so have to be careful. Most important is not to ruin Windows 7.
     
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    You can change the delay in grub2 by editing the file /etc/default/grub with elevated rights (sudo).
    Then run sudo update-grub to update the output files.
    The changes to preferences are in your user profile but system-wide changes like adding a printer will appear to every profile.
    You can repair grub with a live CD or thumbdrive with Boot-repair.
    https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/
     
  3. Brian K

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    act8192,

    Does Windows show the correct time since installing Mint?

    I use IFW (from Windows) to backup the Mint partitions.
     
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    Brian,
    Clock in Windows 10 is OK, but in Windows 7 it is/was wrong on several attempts. I did the command you suggested here
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/mint-live-messes-up-my-clock-need-a-fix.390275/
    but it didn't hold. Perhaps Mint's meaning of restart is slightly different than windows' because shutdown seems to fix Windows 7 clock issue, so far.
    (In Windows my setup is that restart and shutdown do a clean start. That's what I want.)

    I liked Live Mint better. Here I have a problem with WiFi.
    Initially it offered me only WPE. A showstopper. I finally found an option for Hidden networks. There's nothing hidden here. SSID is visible.
    But that option allowed to enter WPA2 key-passphrase, so that is or wass setup. But ...
    Unless WiFi switch is already on when I start Mint, it refuses to connect unless I go through hoops of hidden network etc. A pest if I forget to turn it on and want to print to a WiFi only printer.

    Another showstopper might be the presence of Hibernate on the Quit menu. Live Mint didn't have that pest. I went through power settings, removed hibernation from one setting, so no sign of hibernate at this point, so why on the menu?
    Finally, an annoyance: scroll bar is too narrow. Similar to Windows 10 nearly invisible window border. Yikes.

    Anyway, I might just ditch the installation because Live Mint worked fine for me. I just don't know how to unscramble things now, short of restoring an image from a week ago.
     
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    If the scroll bar is too narrow, just use another theme.
    It's one of the beauties of Linux!
     
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    act8192,

    That is my solution if I can't fix a problem in a few minutes.
     
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    If you are using the MATE version, right-click on the menu button and select Edit or Preferences, don't remember exactly, then you'll be able to select/unselect menu items.
    (I'm mostly into CentOS at the moment, and Debian onto another partition)
     
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    @SuperSapien, Thanks. I think it's ok now. Mint has settled down and I guess stopped changing the battery time. It took a command and few shutdowns, one wasn't enough.

    @fblais,
    I haven't ditched it yet, am enjoying its elegance and quietness compared to busy windows.
    Yes, it's MATE. With your help, grub now has a delay, and I changed few minor things on Menu > Properties - thanks for that tip.
    I found no way to make the scrollbar wider. Tried few built-in themes, nothing there.

    Yes, it's MATE. With your help, grub now has a delay, and I changed few minor things on Menu > Properties - thanks for that tip.
    I found no way to make the scrollbar wider. Tried few built-in themes, nothing there. It might be a Linux feature - I recall Mandriva on XP box was like that.

    More questions:
    - in explorer/File manager is a way to make a two-pane windows. The right pane does not have a scroll bar. Is that normal?
    - two users. There is a Public folder in each user. Is there a way to make either one of those folders visible to both users? I imagined that public is something shareable.
    - I googled out a ton of linka about the need to suppress Hibernation on the Quit dialog, but they refer to a file I don't see, something about the policy. For instance few hints here:
    https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=208&t=168360#p869660
    where someone wrote they hac turn in on and off, but the few code lines I see I don't understand at all :(
    Thing is I removed hibernation from the Power options so it really should not be on the Quit menu.
     
  10. fblais

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    In Caja, the file manager in MATE, you can open multiple tabs with CTRL-T, but there's only one scroll bar at the right.

    You can install the mate-themes with "sudo apt-get install mate-themes" and then check the Menta and Bluementa themes. (green and blue variation of the same theme)
    The scrollbar is wider than Mint-X theme.
    You can probably install the Zukitwo theme too, not sure it's still available in the repos.

    Never added other profiles but did you check in /home ?
    You can possibly see the profiles there, but that's just a guess, I didn't check.
     
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    @fblais, Both users have Public, but nothing about profiles in their /home.

    - Wider scrollbars were in several new mate-themes. Thank you.
    - Hibernation button on the Quit dialog is gone, finally :) :)

    More information in case anyone else is interested:
    Similar to the the information in a linuxforums link I posted earlier, the trick was confirmed and well described in point 10 here:
    https://sites.google.com/site/easyl...suspend-to-disk-only-necessary-in-Linux-Mint-

    What does that "-v" do in this magic incantation?
    sudo mv -v /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla /
    I thought it was stupid of me to try since the polkit-1 directory was EMPTY, but I tried anyway.
    I have no idea what Linux magic can move a non-existent file out to the root level but it did just that :)
     
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    Try "mv --help" to get the basic help, or "man mv" for the complete one.
     
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    What might be a good application, preferably safe and built in, for annotating screenshots with arrows and text boxes?
    Something similar to Windows' Snagit, FastStone capture, Faststone viewer's draw board.
     
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    Shutter?
     
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    I've seen Shutter suggested in several places. For me it's not even close to what Snagit or FastStone can do. I find it cumbersome to use. I can't even find an arrow for annotating :( To have to reboot into Windows to simply annotate a screenshot for a friend seems like a nuisance galore.
    Know of any others?
     
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    @act8192

    To be honest Shutter is one of the better ones. Quite easy to use in my opinion, granted it is different to snagit.

    Look for my mouse curser, you will see the steps.

    regards.
     
  17. act8192

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    TS4H, Thanks. Success :) Your screenies helped me see what it's supposed to be.
    In case anyone else is interested ...
    Unlike what I used from package manager, these incantations gave me the correct Shutter Drawing Tool:
    Code:
    Terminal Commands:
    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:shutter/ppa
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get install shutter
    Unfortunately I didn't write down where I saw it.
    This installer adds two applications. It puts Shutter into Accessories, and ImageMagick (just a viewer) into Graphics. Editing tool in Shutter seems strange at first but everything I need is there. Works fine once you use it for a bit. Shutter screenshot mode coexists with the buil-in Take Screenshot application.
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    @act8192

    No problem, glad your all sorted :thumb:.
     
  19. act8192

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    Booting question.
    It's not an issue as things are working nicely. But I'd like to learn a bit about why when Grub boots the windows part looks strange. Grub presents me with Mint stuff followed by Windows 10 and Windows 7. If I select Windows 7 it goes straight to 7. But when I select Windows 10 it gives me the usual old dual boot with selection of Windows 7 and Windows 10 in that order. Shouldn't it go to 10 directly?
    In case this is important: Win7 was first. Then into a new partition clean installation added Win10. Windows 7 is default boot in msconfig.
     
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    I guess I won't get an answer to the above question, oh well...

    Keyboard lights issue: whenever I statup Mint or come out of standby and login the lights come on. I don't want that, ever. Because if I need the lights, tapping Fn+space is so easy to do. What might be the name of the setting and where can I find it so that I can change it.
     
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