Macrium Reflect

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Stigg, Nov 23, 2013.

  1. TheRollbackFrog

    TheRollbackFrog Imaging Specialist

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    From the FWIW page...

    A Macrium Forum user has a CONFIRMATION from Macrium that anyone who purchased Reflect after 26Nov2016 are eligible for a FREE v7 upgrade. This is basically the same thing they did when v6 appeared on the scene... a license purchase within 90-days prior to release date.
     
  2. TheRollbackFrog

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    And as a reminder... to my limited knowledge, viBOOT, which REQUIRES Hyper-V, does not run under Windows 7, only Windows 8.1 and above. With some work, Windows 7 can be a client who manages a Hyper-V session on a Hyper-V compatible computer but cannot run Hyper-V itself.

    So basically, for W7 users, this feature is not available from Reflect v7.
     
  3. SanyaIV

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    ViBoot itself is also a free standalone application, so you can still use it without the built-in support in v7, I've used it a few times with v6 and it works fine for the most part. So if you don't require the convenience of being able to boot it from reflect itself then an upgrade isn't really necessary in that regard.

    Is there any information for those of us who have v6 licenses much older than 90 days? In my case around the launch of v6? I mean, if there will be a discount or if we have to pay full price. Currently happy with v6 but if v7 introduces any time saving features then I'd be interested in upgrading. Also, will they release bug fixes for v6 after v7 is released?
     
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    Thanks for the info
     
  5. Cache

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    Thanks for the info TRF. Unfortunately I purchased on the 24 November 2016 so will miss out on the free upgrade. I think I will be staying with v6 for a while yet! :(
     
  6. TheRollbackFrog

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    Cache, v6 is a very strong product... there just may not be a reason to upgrade on Day #1, it all depends on whether the new features are ones you can't live without.

    Personally, so far, I can't see any I can't live without (of course I don't know them all yet :rolleyes: ). I'm primarily a W7 user so viBOOT will have to wait until I make my final move to W10 (and that may be a while based on what I'm seeing happening to users on these major feature rollups).
     
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    Yes, I've been using v.5 on my Windows 7 with no problems whatsoever. It offers everything I need so I skipped upgrade to v.6.
    IMO as long as old version runs with no problems, there is no need to upgrade - except if you want or need new features.
     
  8. Cache

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    Thanks for that input TRF. I am with you as a Win7 user so it sounds like I will not be missing much if I don't upgrade.
    @Minimalist It is reassuring to know that you have had no issues using an older version.
     
  9. XIII

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    Does releasing version 7 mean Macrium will stop updating version 6?

    (I have issues with the latest Windows 10 PE since they updated to 1607)
     
  10. khanyash

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    I too like hourly scheduling And an option in scheduling would be good & easy.
     
  11. Minimalist

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    After v.6 was released v.5 still got updates for some time.
     
  12. Peter2150

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    Well I for one will probably go with 7. I've had all the use of the CBT driver why not. Plus I am going to want what they are going to do for 7.1
     
  13. MarcP

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    I asked them on Twitter. They said v6 will still be maintained and updated for a year after v7 is released.
     
  14. XIII

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    Thanks!
     
  15. JayKatai

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    Hi, I've got this weird issue when restoring a full OS backup.

    I always tick to verify before restore, so you get the loading bar in two stages, stage one for verification and stage two for restoration.

    However, I restore from an external USB HGST drive, this drive always goes to sleep during the restoration stage (10 min timer). I also noted there are no blinking HDD lights on the external box during this stage, it only blinks during verification.

    The restore seems to work, Windows boots etc. But why does this happen? Shouldn't it be reading from the external drive during verification AND restore?
     
  16. TheRollbackFrog

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    If your disk has more than one volume on it, or you have more than one disk, AND there's enough space to cache that verified image on either that volume or the 2nd disk, Reflect just may be doing that. Lots of different processes do that on other unlocked volumes.

    I don't know this for a fact when it comes to Reflect, I just know that the temporary caching process is used a lot with other applications needing temporary space to perform their task.
     
  17. JayKatai

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    The machine I'm restoring to only has a single SSD attached, blank with no partitions, 250GB. The image file is 12GB which uncompresses to 24GB. The machine has 16GB RAM, perhaps the image file is cached there? The HDD that holds the image file only has one partition, 460GB/3.00TB used.

    Can't help being a little worried about integrity of restore here! Its a mission critical system for me.

    Thanks for the info!
     
  18. TheRollbackFrog

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    I have made a special request (actually begging & groveling are better words :)) for Macrium to move the v7 FREE UPG window back to 24Nov2016... the reasoning being that many, many license purchases were done during that special "Black Friday" period and without that window extension, they would be getting screwed.

    No guarantees here... let's see what happens (I have no favors to call in).
     
  19. boredog

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    jay should you be using the cloning feature ?
     
  20. Brian K

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    JayKatai,

    Are you sure the image is being restored?

    Edit... I misunderstood. You restored the image to a blank SSD.
     
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  21. JayKatai

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    Yeah, since I secure erase the SSD before restoring, it copies over all partitions fine. It boots, runs stable.

    If I uncheck Verify Before Restore, then it always accesses the external drive and restores in about 7 mins. With it checked, the drive sleeps on the second phase near the end and takes 11 mins. But even when this second phase begins there is no activity at all from the drive, its a HGST drive so you can hear it doing its business halfway down the street, so its pretty easy to tell when its not doing anything. :)
     
  22. TheRollbackFrog

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    No direct knowledge but if I was a good imaging program, and noticed I was restoring to a BLANK device, I might just VERIFY while restoring the image directly. If I discovered a CheckSum error along the way, the operation could be aborted and the result would be no different than if I did both operations separately.

    If my device to be restored had a FileSystem on it, I would proceed as a 2-step operation and either cache, if I could, or re-read the verified image for restoration. You can test this for sure by doing another restoration (FULL, not RDR) to your now BOOTable SSD.

    You might wanna ask this question over on the Macrium Forum. If you're not licensed (need to be to join the Forum, FREE doesn't count), I'll be happy to ask it for you...
     
  23. Cache

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    Thanks for your efforts TRF - they are much appreciated!
     
  24. JayKatai

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    Tried restoring to a bootable SSD, same thing happens. Very curious.

    I only have a license for v5, I've been using the v6 free version for awhile to trial so unfortunetely wont be able to post over there. If you could be so kind it would be very much appreciated. :thumb:
     
  25. Stigg

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    Who is going to upgrade to Macrium Reflect 7?
    It doesn't seem that long ago that I purchased version 6. How quickly time flies.

    Macrium Reflect 7 Countdown.jpg
     
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