Microsoft to miss 'one billion' Windows 10 target

No surprise seeing the target amount of 1 billion was over-ambitious to begin with.

 

A lot of people don't have Internet access.

That can be a problem because Windows requires it to run.

 

Not sure if I understand that. You can still use a Local Account and run things offline.

 

I meant for the browser and Internet-facing apps, you need an Internet connection.

You can run certain things offline with Windows but if you don't have access online, you're limited in what you can do.

 

And how is this different to any other OS?

 

Endless OS gets around the problem with built-in apps that don't require an Internet connection.

Of course, Internet is desirable but some parts of the world don't have infrastructure to connect to it.

 

Yup come out with Windows10, try and force it down peoples throat and then appear to abandon any other Microsoft operating system or make it harder than hell to obtain any patches or updates if any are even available anymore. Nope Microsoft needs to go the way of the dinosaur and become extinct.
Always,
Wildman

 

None of my Windows 7X64 Ultimate machines have been able to connect to Microsoft update server for 3 months now. This has been an ungoing problem since Windows 10 was released. I need at least one of my Windows 7 machines for work, and school. My friends and family have the same problem with Windows 7. If I didn't need Windows for school, and work I would only use Linux.

 

You will have to download and install rollup packs if you haven't updated your Windows for three months. Its simpler and faster than waiting for Windows Update to download individual patches for installation.

 

Unfortunately, that's the only option I have left since I have exhausted all possible fixes for this problem. That will be more time consuming, and I have very little time as it is. I will have to read through all the patches to make sure I don't miss one in regards to what MS software is installed on each machine.

 

Not able to connect?! Did you install/run some kind of anti-Microsoft-tracking program that blocked Microsoft servers? Are they behind a router that has had such blocking implemented?

 

Not only is Win 7 supported until 2020, I've also seen several laptops on sale with Ubuntu or Mint preinstalled. I am not sure what OS my next desktop computer will run, all I know is it won't be Windows.

 

No, none of that. I'm pretty sure it's a bug with Microsoft. I know many people with the same problem.

 

Not very surprising. PC sales are low, anyone but high end gamers are not eager to migrate, professional market is holding back migrations until antitrust will rule about W10 privacy issues - I'm not implying anything negative here, iOS and Android are doing almost the same, but they are not used the same way WinPC are; the fact is US antitrust is expected to pop up about the topic in near-mid term by anyone, and outcome is expected to be positive for user's privacy.

Plus, MS was counting mobile and xboxes as "W10 machines", but WinPhone is on life support (to say the least) so the contribute to total count is negligible.

 

I agree. Microsoft still thinks that they can create one-size-fits-all OS. At the end they will end up with OS that doesn't provide best user experience on any platform.

 

Microsoft's stats, if you are interested...

https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/store/windows-app-data-trends

They count it differently. The Windows usage data is obtained from customers who have opted to send us telemetry data. The app purchase and download data comes directly from the Windows Store.

 

Thanks for link. Too bad they sorted results by alphabet instead by date.

 

Yes they could have been sorted better. I am a little puzzled by the numbers especially when the bulk of MS clients are Enterprise users - I'd have thought the admins would have all the telemetry turned off - unless the data is coming from what can not be turned off

 

In a word Microsoft SUCKS! It's Linux for me!
Always,
Wildman

 

With respect, I suggest that microsoft figured out that users COULD control the older OSs, so they took control away.

There is an interesting graph here.
http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201509-201609

Notice how the lines for win 7 and win 10 almost mirror each other, and the changes are leveling off now that the free push has ended.

 

Its actually pretty fast why don't ppl like it?? if you use it go to 7, 7 looks bit older now. Use classic shell and its same as 7

 

Telemetry, Telemetry, Telemetry & Telemetry.

And the hidden Telemetries nobody can find yet.

 

Microsoft has released its latest 'OS market share' statistics, which once again is very different from the other bean counters out there.

I see that Microsoft does say that they also count unsold devices in their numbers, whereas the others do not. IMHO: Counting inventory is not representative of market 'demand' which is what market 'share' is all about. Usage is a far better indicator.

https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/store/windows-app-data-trends

Here are the comparison numbers from other reporting entities for the same time period ...

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/12/12/microsoft-windows-10-is-doing-well-netmarketshare-well/

The differences are substantial. Unfortunately, the distribution of the stats throughout main stream is more likely going to be Microsoft's numbers. I expect shareholders only see these numbers as well.