NEW RELEASE: Process Guard v3.0

Discussion in 'ProcessGuard' started by Jason_DiamondCS, Sep 20, 2004.

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  1. MEGAFREAK

    MEGAFREAK Registered Member

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    pg needs a intelligent recognition method otherwise the user needs to much time adjusting.. especially you should add processxp, filemon and regmon as standards in your pg!! Otherwise you have to turn on and off and on and off .. this hits the nerves and the precious time of each individual
     
  2. Marine06

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    Have it installed and everything is running well.

    A few suggestions(?):

    - Ability to import protection list from v2.0. I could not find this option anywhere and was hoping that it was possible. Allow one to save v3 protection list so when the final version is available one does not have to reconfigure the settings (i'm assuming that the settings will be wiped and will not be saved when the new version is released).

    - Allow dragging programs into the protected list for easier configuring of applications.

    - In the "Security" tab, allow one to change the last option setting to one of the five options (like before). Also, allow one to double click the filename inorder to obtain the settings as if one viewed the program's properties.
     
  3. Pilli

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    Megafreak, Learning mode is an intelligent method, most ppl will have a good set up within hours. Obviously if you are forever installing and uninstalling programs then you will have to spend more time on on your settings.

    Pilli
     
  4. Pilli

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    I is not possible to convert for Version 3 as stated in Jason's initial post :)

    I expect that if you copy your .dat files to another folder, when copied back after installing the release version, they will work - providing DCS do not change the fromat in the meantime.

    I am sure that drag and drop will be reinstated, the same applies to the Security list re. right clicking on an item, hopefully there will be even more options than in V2.
     
  5. Marine06

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    Thanks for the prompt reply. I should pay more attention to the initial post :p
     
  6. redwolfe_98

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    i reinstalled pg3 and it seems to be working for me, now.. i don't know why it didn't seem to work properly when i first installed it..

    i need advice about what "global protection" options should be enabled on the "main" tab.. i currently have them all checked..

    pg3 seems stable, or rather, i feel that it is not causing my computer to be unstable, and it is not too complicated to use..

    what is the proper way to uninstall pg? do you simply run the uninstall from add/remove? to uninstall pg, what i did was, i disabled all protection in pg, closed the associated processes running in the task manager/processes, and then i ran the uninstall from add/remove..

    in the help file, it mentions a "manual uninstall", where it says to run the uninstall from add/remove in safe mode, but, if i am not mistaken, i tried that once, and it did not work out.. my conclusion was that one cannot run an "uninstall" in safe mode..(?)
     
  7. Pilli

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    Hi redwolfe_98, I usually have all four general tabs enabled & have not had problems though you do need to watch the alerts so that any necessary allows can be enabled.
    The proper way to uninstall PG is to disable protection got to start - All programs - Process Guard and use the uninstall option. You will need to re-boot to complete the process.

    You can uninstall in Safe mode but it is a little more complex.

    HTH Pilli
     
  8. Jason_DiamondCS

    Jason_DiamondCS Former DCS Moderator

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    Yes that is actually the correct method to uninstall PG3 for this beta. You simply run the uninstall utility, it will popup the ProcessGuard interface, you disable protection, close the program, then the uinstall Program will continue.

    The final release of ProcessGuard v3 will have much a improved uninstall, but still require the user to first disable protection themselves. The final version will tell the user to do this, compared to how it is now where the user must know to disable protection the close the program.

    The reason for this is obviously ProcessGuard protects itself so well that unless it's protection is disabled by a person, there is no way you can remove it from the system. That is one feature that no other security programs incorporate.
     
  9. Khaine

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    Couple of suggestions from playing around with it :

    1) When protection is disabled thier is no identification of that in the system tray icon

    2) It would be nice to hide the systray icon and have a hotkry to open it up, or have balloon tips when something is blocked (option)

    3) thier is no option for process guard to verify that all the files in the security tab still exist and remove useless entries

    4) It would be nice to see the checksums of the protected files, both in the database anad when the process guard dialog box is displayed

    5) Perhaps the option for process guard to verify the protected list files every x hours/min/days/ or when idle or something to ensure that they haven't been modified. I know that DCS didn't want PG to turn into a file checker but trust is of upmost importance to process guard. You must trust that the process you have run, that is being protected by process guard, is the correct one not some form of malware
     
  10. Khaine

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    One other small thing, some of the System Internal's Tools like TDI Mon try to get services.exe to install their driver to work :

    Tue 21 - 22:18:49 [DRIVER/SERVICE] c:\windows\system32\services.exe [948] Tried to install a driver/service named TDIMSYS

    Now I don't want to allow anything to use this method to install drivers, I only want to let selected programs do that. I have no idea how {if at all} it is possible for you guys to let this work, but if anyone can its DCS :)

    Also anther issue I've noticed, its impossible to disable logging
     
  11. Pilli

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    Khaine, You would have to place those tools on the protection list and allow them to install drivers/services. This is necessary for Process explorer for instance. Though giving them terminate allow would probably noy be a good idea.

    BTW thanks for your suggestions, I am sure DCS will consider them all. :)
     
  12. poogimmal

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    v3.0 seems to be running fine here. I had stability problems with v2.0 and ultimately could not run it, but v3.0 seems to be running as it should and no system crashes that I experienced with v2.0.

    only anomaly seen is that I have asus mobd and run asusprobe.exe which v3.0 has ID'd as "always permit" but this morning it seemed like it started to execute but then its GUI display never appeared on desktop. so there maybe some sort of "conflict" with asusprobe, but that is a minor annoyance. the fact that v3.0 is working and stable more than outweighs that minor bug. I'll see if I can track it down further.
     
  13. Pilli

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    Hi poogimmal, With asusprobe, try disabling it's autostart and then create a shortcut to asusprobe.exe & place it in your Run - All programs - Start menu.
    This will start it slightly after your other autostart programs and may solve the problem.

    HTH Pilli
     
  14. Paranoid2000

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    No unlock code

    I've been able to download the beta but no unlock code is displayed in the box underneath (checking the HTML source for the page gives <TEXTAREA ROWS=6 COLS=70 READONLY></TEXTAREA> for the empty box). This is even after putting Proxomitron in bypass mode, disabling HTML filtering in Outpost (Ad + Active Content filters) and setting Opera 6.05's user ID to MSIE (Opera itself has everything enabled bar Flash). Even bypassing JAP makes no difference.

    Is there another method of getting this code or am I missing something?
     
  15. Pilli

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    Hi Paranoid2000, A a licenced user, once you have logged into the members area the box below the PG3 download link has the code to copy and paste, usually a local proxy is no prblem.
    We may have to wait for a DCS response on your particular problem.

    Pilli
     
  16. Wayne - DiamondCS

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    There does appear to be a problem, we are working on it and we apologise for any inconvenience in the meantime
     
  17. poogimmal

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    on my box asusprobe is not an autostart, but I did find "the problem." When PG3.0 is set to protect physical memory, asusprobe will not run. tracked it down in the PG Alert log. excellent! not so sure about best Global Protection Option settings (I had not run v2.0 in several months so I'm rusty with PG). When I UNprotected physical memory asusprobe ran fine. I typically only run that probe once a day to look for developing problems (none so far). After I closed asusprobe, I reset PG3.0 to protect physical memory. Eager to read the 3.0 Help, I'm reviewing the 2.0 help.

    meanwhile, a new sticky_wicket. Printing a pdf doc from MS Word using the Adobe Acrobat Distiller which is installed as a printer. Is it a device, or is an application, or both ?? I use Distiller for work, and last night had to disable PG3.0 to print to a pdf. not clear how to load the pdf distiller process(es) into PG to "always permit" or even "permit once." Last night, PG seemed not to see them, but not sure.

    But those issues aside, I'm lovin' it.
     
  18. Pilli

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    You could add it to your protection list a give it the Access Physical Memeory flag. :)
     
  19. poogimmal

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    YES, did as you suggest & now asusprobe runs with main setting protecting physical memory. as a pg3.0 user I'm weak on the finer points. eagerly awaiting 3.0 help. I will study the adobe acrobat distiller "problem" and thinking I'll get it set correctly. THANKS!! PG3.0 quickly becoming one of my favorite apps. (I was somewhat "soured" by 2.0, but I DL'd 3.0 as soon as I heard it was available. tech support worked very hard on my 2.0 problem and even though we did not solve it, DCS is tops IMO opinion -- I run TDS3, PE, WG, RegProt & now PG3.0) "is it safe?" ;-)
     
  20. Pilli

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    Should that read "Is it A safe?" :D

    Pilli
     
  21. Kentish

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    I downloaded and installed PG3 last night, having removed PG2 first..and my first impressions are it looks easier..but...I want to disable the start up menu that I get, PG2 would just start up and run in the background but PG3 takes over the whole desktop until I close it down. Also the help files for PG3 all show PG2 screen shots etc.

    I have found PG3 has made my system more unstable, with more IE crashes since irs been on than I ever had with PG2.
    I also like to play Rainbow6 Athena Sword, but unless I disable PG3 the game will not run.

    I have all 4 global protection options checked, so any advise or suggestions would be greatfully recieved.

    Cheers
     
  22. Pilli

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    Hi Kentish, Did you leave PG3 in learning mode whilst you ran your games?
    Learning mode is much more advanced in V3.

    As stated in Jason's opening posts the new help file is not in this beta.

    To alter the startup try the following:
    Right click the start button - Open - Programs - Startup - Right click the Process Guard icon - Properties - Make target look like this Target "C:\Program Files\ProcessGuard\procguard.exe" -minimize

    PG should now minimise when started.

    HTH Pilli
     
  23. Kentish

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    Cheers, I sorted the start-up of PG3. As for running PG3 in Learning Mode for my gaming...it makes no difference, I have to disable PG3 to be able to play . :(
     
  24. Pilli

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    You may have to find the offending .exe an place it on the protection list, see what alerts it gives and make the allows it wants.

    HTH Pilli
     
  25. Arctic

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    Could you tell me how to save a copy of my Protection List to make it easier to restore security. If I uninstall PG and install the new PG3 I am not really sure how to save my list and settings. I would also like to make a suggestion. I was hoping that someone would create a list of all process that should be protected by PG3 and what privileges they should have. Some people (including myself) are just not sure what programs should be protected and it would be a great help to have a list with the privileges listed. :)
     
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