Windows 10 Anniversary Update

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  1. Krusty

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    FYI, System Restore was still enabled on my two Win10 x64 machines.
     
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    Last night suddenly the brightness level of my display could not be adjusted from the computer keys nor from Settings/System/Display. As the brightness was too dimmed to be comfortable, I used System Restore to return the machine to the time I had just performed the Anniversary Update.

    It took almost an hour!!! for system restore to do its job and when the machine rebooted, it went into a never ending loop of blue screens warning of errors and gathering information for diagnosis... The worst scenario one could possibly imagine... Well Macrium Reflect and an image of Win 10 made my day today as everything is back to normal. I think I'll wait a little while before trying again the anniversary update, and I don't think I will trust System Restore in the future, although I never had problems using it for small issues with Win8 and 8.1.
     
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    did both machines have clean installs vs in-place upgrade, I'm wondering if clean installs, OEM/retail are having better AU experience vs (only) in-place upgrades....
     
  4. Krusty

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    Both machines had clean installs of Win10 about a week before AU was released, then updated using Media Creation Tool > Update this machine (or what ever the exact wording is).
     
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    I've seen Win10 OEM w positive AU experience.

    Q: Is your Windows Defender Network Inspection Service = Running Automatic. Dependencies point to BFE (Base Filtering Engine is a service that manages firewall and Internet Protocol security policies and implements user mode filtering).
    Curious, why Windows Defender NIS is Running.
     
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    I have upgraded to the Win 10 Anniversary Update without a hitch.

    Kaspersky AV, WinAntiRansom Plus, MBAE Premium and ZAM Premium all active. Honestly, I made a mistake, I was actually planning on at least disabling the protection. But the upgrade still worked even when the protection are all active.

    I guess I was just lucky.

    Edit, Action center now does not detect Kaspersky as turned on. A workaround is to turn off realtime protection from the KAV interface and turn it on again.
     
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  7. Baldrick

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    Update went flawlessly on my Desktop system. The only issue I have is that cannot update my tablet as 16Gb free space is required and on my little tablet I only have about 7Gb remaining after a thorough cleaning, and removing stuff is not an option. Does any one know if external media can be used as an alternative to the system disk for space?

    Regards, Baldrick
     
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    Baldrick,

    What size is the OS partition?
    What size is the drive?
     
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    I have had so many failed updates that I went for a clean install on my own PC. So much work… :(

    Next on my list 3 PC's from family members; I hope updating will work on them!
     
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    ISO + USB = Perfect clean install without issues = best baseline to install your favorite up-to-date softwares.
     
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    I have tried MCT Upgrade Now (twice) and Windows 10 Upgrade Assistant method : https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12387/windows-10-update-history
    Interestingly, AU does not show up on Windows Update yet.

    AV uninstalled, USB drives removed.

    All goes well until Working on updates phase; first reboot at 32% is OK, but system does not reboot at second reboot at 75%, just spinning circle.

    Really want to avoid a clean install - do you think I should try again but disconnect from the internet after the download as per your following suggestions?

    If you are updating through Windows Update, when the download reaches 100% disconnect from the Internet LAN (Ethernet) or Wi-Fi and proceed with the installation.

    If you aren't already, try using the .ISO file to upgrade if possible.
    If you are upgrading using the .ISO file, disconnect from the Internet during setup, if you are connected by LAN (Ethernet) or Wi-Fi, disable both and attempt setup again.

     
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    Was a chkdsk performed? If you do a standard check, nothing came up, then do a thorough run.

    Afterwards, regardless of the results from doing the above. Run the sfc check
     
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  14. paulderdash

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    No chkdsk errors. SFC clean. Will try some of your other suggestions in the coming days.

    I keep everything updated but I am also tempted to just go back to my original operating systems (7 and 8.1).

    My previously 7 laptop (which I am trying to update from 1511 to 1607) does seem snappier though. But my previously 8.1 laptop has two annoyances 1.) not all system icons display in the notification area due to some custom scaling issue 2.) the system freezes after about 3 minutes with Windows Search (searchindexer.exe) enabled. Both issues still exist in 1607.

    New features in 10 (other than security) don't interest me and less control is a turn off e.g. I am not really sure Group Policy for Windows Update is working in 1607. See my earlier post.
     
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    Nah, it works fine for most people. I've had no problem with this or the last several Insider builds. The only recent problem I have had with Windows 10 is that on some machines the "Default" user profile gets corrupt and you cannot create new users on a machine and log into them. That can be fixed by replacing it with a good copy from another machine.
     
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    Paul Thurrott has a different opinion:
    Windows 10 Tip: Get the Anniversary Update Immediately
     
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    There is no substance to this recommendation, it is just an opinion with nothing specific to justify it, a promo blurb, nothing more.

    Woody's page had specific issues and reasons not to. Not everyone cares about privacy and control but for those of us who do, there is reason enough not to upgrade. Apart from the issues in the upgrade itself, I find the whole process to be distasteful. I've wasted enough time and bandwidth just installing Windows 10 and an upgrade that amounts to a complete reinstall of the OS is way too much for an OS that is barely a year old. I've decided not to upgrade any of my installs and just leave them at the version they are at. I don't want forced apps and advertising and even less control.
     
  20. roger_m

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    I've upgraded one of my laptops to AU, and I love it. It is running better than the previous build did, and I'm glad I've upgraded. I've only tried to upgrade one other computer so far, and on that laptop the upgrade always fails and does a rollback to the previous build.
     
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    i'm quite surprised that people in security/computers forums doesn't clean install with every major upgrades. If it was Average Joe i can understand but geeks...

    - you gain a clean system free of obsolete leftovers and even bugs you had previously; the OS size will be at minimal.
    - you know now what things you should avoid to do.
    - you can reinstall up-to-date softwares (of course you were smart enough to backup the settings )
    - you can create a brand new clean backup system image.

    only con, yes, it take time to re-setup your system.

    i always clean installed since Win7 , and never get the WU issues i read everywhere.
     
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    roger_m is a fine example; he repeatedly encountered failure trying to update to AU on one of his laptops. However he still goes ahead an upgrades another laptop and has complete success. Returns greatly satisfied.

    I've created Windows 10-AU DVD after using Media Creation Tool to download ISO. I've lost count to how many computers I've successfully updated to Windows 10-AU, from current version 10586.494.

    However, yesterday I've had my first minor hiccup with trying to install the update on a person's computer.

    Received;
    Setup couldn't start properly. Please re-boot your PC and try running Windows 10 setup again.​

    Subsequent attempt w/web AU Updater;
    Something Went wrong ~ You can contact Microsoft support for help with this error. Here is the error code 0xc1900107.
    Easy-fix, just delete (preferably, with Windows 'Disk Clean-up' utility) the Win10 temporary Windows installations folders. OR... rename the folders $Windows.~BT and $Windows.~WS if the 'Disk Clean-up' utility fails like it had yesterday for me.

    Then retrying to the Windows 10 AU DVD, went baby smooth. :)

    That was the only hiccup thus far. All positive feedback giving. “Windows runs better.
    My observations; every computer that I've updated to with AU, is impressively more responsive yet remaining very stable.

    In my humble opinion, listening to naysayers is a critical error.
     
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  23. Krusty

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    Except with the new KMD requirements many security software doesn't install on Win10 AU until they get their drivers signed.
     
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    They should have their drivers signed at the first place... cost saving isn't the best choice, now they "pay" the price (no pun intended:p )
     
  25. Krusty

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    Take HMP and HMP.A for example, both are signed but they need to be signed by Microsoft for new installations.
     
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