Did you install Windows 10 and eventually decide to rollback to an older version of Windows?

No! I'm just stating my opinion.
I have the right, I guess...

 

Lol yes, was jk

 

Yes, I prefer Windows 8.1, but didn't roll back because of potential problems that might have caused... Maybe Windows 10 will grow on me, but the upgrade was very annoying... some drivers didn't work, I had to reinstall some programs, some programs still don't work properly, I hate the new Windows 10 spying and Windows 10 Update policy. Some things don't work as easily as before, although maybe I need to get used to them or new ways of doing things on Windows... But in short, I don't like Windows 10. Don't upgrade.

 

I upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 7 when it was officially be released. And no, I do not intend to downgrade to W 7 or any other version.

 

@pajenn You would have not had any problems if you rollbed back to Windows 8. It's usually easy to find any missing drivers after the upgrade. I've had no problem finding drivers for 10 years old laptops which had been running XP.

Just because, you don't like it Windows 10 is not a good reason to advise that nobody should upgrade to it. I've installed it on many computers, and will continue to do so, as it works very well.

 

My how things change!

I've been quite happily using Win10 on both machines now for many months and there is no going back for me.

 

obviously that's just my 2 cents based on my experience...

 

I seen this post you in reference to. I think when people first sees the new Windows 10 install, they panic because of some small differences. Especially if they got use to the Windows 8 Metro-style.

I'm not saying this applied to your case. I'm just stating my observations of the general.

When people stays on Windows 10 and willing to explorer a little, they really start liking it. When they see how smooth it can operate for long periods of time, people really likes.

 

The upgrade roll-back procedure is very simplistic. If you prefer Windows 8.1, and you want to roll-back, do it before 30-days of install otherwise you'll loose the old Windows installation and all the customizations. After which time, you'll need to use factory restore or whatever means you use to install Windows again.

The only way that simplistic roll-back procedure would fail, if you have hardware related problems.

I think people are ignorant when they mention Windows 10 spying foolishness. I'm personally like the court systems, person / company is innocent until proven guilty. What people refers to spying, is really so far, nothing more than telemetry.

I have no issues with Windows 10, and things works much better, my personal experiences. Upgrading old Netbook w/Windows 7 Starter. I notice a big speed gain in the overall system performance. I so far don't see nothing functioning improperly.

I think the Settings are still confusing for those use to entering Windows Control Panel and customizing from there. Windows 10 still has Control Panel, simply right-click on the Start Menu logo. I think if you get it setup the way you like, I think you'll ultimately like it better. Just the transitioning period, give it a far trial.

Would been interesting to know which hardware drivers failed or wasn't installed. For failed, I would suggest to remove (not permanently delete driver). Simply have Device Manager then scan for hardware changes and re-boot regardless and check again. If failed again or isn't installed, right-click on that entry in Device Manager and 'Update Driver Software...'

If your problem comes after updating, go and roll-back driver from with-in Device Manager.

If required still, visit the computer manufacturer site and retrieve the latest driver updates for Windows 10. If none available, try using latest Windows 8 driver. If you simply not want to be bothered by going on the web. You can point the driver location to the one found in the old Windows folder and that'll work too.

“ Don't Upgrade ”, like others I see it as harsh statement. Yes your opinion but regardless, your experiences may not be shared one.

 

As I mentioned earlier, rather than roll back, I use imaging and cloning to set up dual boot systems but if I wanted to just use Windows 10 and keep the option open to return to an earlier version of Windows, I would just image the current system. The built in imaging of Windows 7 would work fine for this but my preferred app for that is Aomei backupper. Macrium, Easus and several other programs would also do the job.

The transition from Windows 7 to Windows 10 is a bit harsher and driver issues are more likely. Windows 8 to Windows 10 is not that big a difference.

Just because I don't particularly care for Windows 10 doesn't mean I want to impose my view of it on others. I do like to make people aware that they have options other than the default upgrade and 30 day roll back and if they choose to use an older OS, there shouldn't be an real problem with that, security or otherwise.

 

The easiest way to try and fix missing drivers, it the same as in Windows 7. Go to Devices and Printers (go the Start Menu and type in "devices" and it will be one of the search results). Your computer will be shown as one of the devices. Right click on it, and then select Troubleshoot. This will make Windows search for the missing drivers, one by one.

Of course, Micrsoft doesn't have drivers available for all devices, so it won't be able to find drivers for some devices. But, it is a good starting point.

 

It's not just a question of drivers missing or not, it is a question of better drivers and performance. The Windows power management works but the Lenovo version is much better. Not all drivers are equal. I'm unwilling to sacrifice performance in some areas, ACPI and GPU particularly. The great thing about my dual boot setups is that I can do real comparisons of the same computer running different OSes. For the W520, Ubuntu wins hands down in performance followed by the native Windows 7 and Windows 10 is 3rd. Windows 7 wins in power management and battery time.

 

None, of the above choices.
My machines that support windows 7 will continue to have 7 until the end of their life.
One system has being downgraded from win7 ultimate to win10 because I need it for supporting clients that have win10.
As for the future, if microsoft continues on this track I'll probably ditch the windows ecosystem all together at least on my personal systems.

Privacy is one thing... the facebook generation is accustomed to trade their privacy for a free service. I don't like it but I could live with it; one system online and everything else of the net.

But forced updates/upgrades is a definitly no-no for me.

Panagiotis

 

Foolishness?
Is there anyone on this planet that knows exactly what is the windows 10 privacy agreement? And I mean without making assumptions!
From https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/UseTerms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm

The above link takes the user to https://aka.ms/privacy and redirects to https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement .

And the link http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=529552 redirects the user to http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-10/windows-privacy-faq

The link Microsoft Privacy Statement http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=521839 redirects again to https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement .
And the link Windows 10 and your online services http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/online-services takes the users to

Guess what it directs http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?linkid=123161 which redirects again to... https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement .

Bottomline the user agrees that his data,info,etc. will be collected by microsoft and will be used by microsoft as per agreement but microsoft does not disclose what information is collected and why. It only directs him and redirects him and redirects him and redirects him, in the hope that he will find the answer and he is stuck in a loop of redirections with zero answers....

Personally, I am not paranoid but when I sign an agreement (which we do when we install the OS) I want to know to what I agree on....

my 2 cents,
Panagiotis
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Microsoft should say:
Your privacy is important to us. In fact is soooo important that, we will keep it absolutly private and will not disclose even to you what kind of data we collect from you....

 

3 downgrades.

I am sure Windows 10 won't be the cause of any negative dramas in my life.

 

If your comments and sarcastic smilies were meant for me , is clear that you use windows as an entertainment device.

Some use it for work and for some not having the ability to skip the updates or the upgrades, not having applocker and Remote App support, to name a few..., is a BIG downgrade...

Panagiotis

 

Our company uses it.
Not sure where you're heading here. It seems like someone has filled your head with mush.
Do yourself a favor. Don't believe all the crap you read online.

Take care.

 

Not sure where you are heading either.
What exactly from ultimate you did not get? That version existed to fill the gap between the pro and the enterprise versions not only for home users but also for small-medium sized businesses

Good for your company, I'm pretty sure that microsoft uses it too... and I also know a lot off IT managers that unless MS makes it easier to disable all telemetry than this joke, they won't touch it.

Panagiotis

 

-Is it Microsoft the only one that collects user-data?

-What about Google?
-What about Security-software vendors?
-What about ISPs?

-Don't they all collect user-data?

Just wondering...

 

Yes most of them collect data. That's why I wouldn't use email to send sensitive business data or store it on google drive. I would also disable AV to send that data to their servers.
With Office365 I wouldn't be sure who has access to that data so I prefer to use "offline" document editors.

 

Hi Pete,

Same here. I do not trust any cloud service, except locally createded/placed/controlled ones. For online backup cloud services where the user has no fisical access; the only rule is to use 256 AES and perform differential backups and then uploading to the cloud (I mean for sensitive files).

Panagiotis

 

No is not only Microsoft. Apple and Google pioneered it and MS took it a step further
e.g. Apple collects data from spotlight but the user can exclude directories or drives from getting indexed/spied. Also monitors safari.
But microsoft added a full blown keylogger and speech logger enabled by default.
And for business environments keylogging and cortana should not even exist as services in the OS... and not force IT-staff to hunt them down for disabling them.
- security software gives you the option to exclude files folders from scanning.
- Isps also monitors online data. The problem is not monitoring the online activity. The problem is that Microsoft wants to monitor every activity... a big difference...

Panagiotis

 

Microsoft sues U.S. Justice Dept., asks court to declare secrecy orders unconstitutional (geekwire.com)

Keeping secrecy the exception, not the rule: An issue for both consumers and businesses (http://blogs.microsoft.com)

Maybe, the overall picture...

 

Upgraded both my desktop and laptop to Windows 10 and I'm not rolling back.