Sandboxie Acquired by Invincea

Hi Bo, re:#2074
Yes, for example. I already had Browsing and Download History n' Form and Search History checked.
And CCleaner was finding Cache. So, I've checked Cache to be cleared with FF close. Since, I was clearing with CCleaner anyway. And saving Cache doesn't seem to improve browser. And what if there's a nasty in Cache. IDK if nasty in Cache is plausible.
So, if I follow. Some stuff will leak out even though Local and Roaming are in my sandbox due to e.g., Direct Access and such. It's up to me to tighten as much as is comfortable.
Yes, I'm aware programs run through IE.
Thanks!
Edit: I have CCleaner save my login cookies. Will Firefox delete all cookies if I check clear cookies on close..?

 

deugniet.......

Bo

 

Check the link I posted about Privacy concerns. It basically says that Sandboxie doesnt "prevent your own Windows operating system from keeping records of what you do in your computer".....I don't think when that happens is a leak but just the way things work in Windows.

Bo

 

Yes, I never seen CCleaner detect a Firefox cookie for me. I have cookies set to be deleted when I close Firefox in Firefox Options. And I don't allow access to cookies in Sandbox settings which is really all that needs to be done for cookies not to be saved out of the sandbox.

Bo

 

Well, I keep persistent login cookies for a few non-sensitive sites. So, I use CCleaner to manage/keep cookies. I'm imagining wo exclusion direct access to Firefox cookies. My saved login cookies will not be recognized.
I'm wondering if after I've setup cookies to keep in CCleaner. Whether I can go back to clear cookies on close or will my persistent cookies also clear.
For Direct Access > prefs.js, adblockplus\patterns.ini, permissions.sqlite, content-prefs.sqlite and for Exclusions > force, cookies, bookmarks, phishing.

 

I cant tell you based on personal experience as all my cookies get deleted when I delete the sandbox. I allow all cookies in the sandbox but dont save any. But I was wondering the same and my guess is that you can untick allowing cookies out of the sandbox and the ones you already saved, will remain in the PC, unless you delete them with CCleaner.

Bo

 

I've un-ticked direct access to Firefox cookies....maybe, I'll un-tick phishing .

 

When under Sandboxie protection - Do any of you experience Firefox in a "Not responding" state, after trying to save an image (jpg, png, etc.)?

 

I just tried saving your avatar image via right click - save image as... I didn't notice any stalling or "not responding" messages.
Hmmmmm, check if dllhost.exe is entered in Restrictions -> Start/Run Access.
Also, how have you set up your download folders for Firefox, along with Resource -> File -> Blocked Access entries?

 

Hi Ty, I am not getting anything like that when saving an image. If you are using lots of addons, I suggest you try a new Firefox profile to check if without addons, saving sandboxed pictures works smoothly. If it does, then try figuring the conflicting addon by adding one at a time.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/k...refox-profiles#w_starting-the-profile-manager

You can do it sandboxed. If you Force Firefox, the Profile manager runs sandboxed when you type firefox.exe -P in the run dialog. Firefox will run automatically in your DefaultBox.

I saw your setup at the setup thread. I see you are not using an AV but if you are using anything like a web guard, test disabling it. Addons like WOT and Ublock will go away when you run Firefox with the new profile, that way you ll test those.

Bo

 

Ty, another idea. If you have Firefox set to Always ask where to save files, then perhaps that's where your problem is coming from. If you do, test to see what happens if instead you set Firefox to save files at a specific folder, like your Desktop.

Over time, I seen a few SBIE users reporting sort of symptoms like you described when moving around using File explorer looking for a folder to upload or download something. This being reported when running Firefox sandboxed.

Bo

 

It was definitely an add-on that was causing my issue.

It ended up being that WOT was the problem.

Thanks Bo, you always seem to have the correct answer when it comes to Sandboxie.

 

You are welcome, Ty. I had the feeling it was WOT.

Bo

 

Aye, share the love... lol!

 

WOT is somehow causing trouble since month, same for mcafee extension. but if some already deal with uBlock WOT ist complete needless, the built-in hosts list in uBlock (and uMatrix) cover that. settings and files for uBlock/uMatrix can be found in profile folder -> \extension-data\ (or export/import)

btw i never would ccleaner do a lousy job on firefox, firefox can deal this itself. if some need to delete sharp try one of those extensions which deal the history (delete after days/weeks/month) or by site, or site cookie when tab closed, or cookie culler/cookie monster to deal with cookies in general.

and idd, ccleaner can not deal firefox data in the box as long it dont run in the box. but that not recommended and if you set up proper the box the box do cleaning itself.

the matter for 3rd-party tools outside firefox is that those only can deal with the files and not with its content. although ccleaner have a sqlite routine it is not able to work properly on firefox database because firefox code is always changed with update and ccleaner is out of that period.

sorry for being offtopic but some things need to be claryfied.

 

The release of Stable version 5.06 is around the corner, links for RC 5.06 have been posted at the Sandboxie forum. Nothing changes from beta 5.05.3.

http://forums.sandboxie.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=21855#p114056

Bo

 

Thanks for the the heads up, bo

 

Sandboxie stable version 5.06 has been posted at the SBIE forum.
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?DownloadSandboxie
All versions link
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?AllVersions

Version Changes
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?VersionChanges#v_5.06

Bo

 

Uninstalled 5.05.2 and installed 5.06. After install and restart I got 2 BSODs. Third and fourth time all went well. Unfortunately no memory dumps got saved. I hope that I won't encounter them any more.

 

Minimalist, what program were you trying to run when you got the BSOD? And what Windows system are you using?

You shouldn't be getting any BSOD. As you probably know, after Octobers Windows updates were released, running most browsers under SBIE was broken but the only known situation that the user might of experience a BSOD after installing the Windows update was running Firefox and Flash in a sandbox at the same time. This issue was fixed after 5.05.2. You should be good. If you get another one, I suggest you report it at the SBIE forum.

I have 5.06 stable in my W7 and RC 5.06 in XP, all is well. In all the years I used SBIE, I never experienced a BSOD, getting one of them with SBIE is really rare. I didn't even get one after Octobers updates since I always wait days or weeks to install Windows updates. I willingly beta test for SBIE but not for Microsoft.

I think you are a Chrome user, I don't recall anyone this past few weeks reporting a BSOD running Chrome. Let us know the details that you have. For the future, you can upgrade SBIE over the top, no need to uninstall and then install. I never done that. Its OK to go back and forth in versions by running the installer over the top. Reboot is not required but I feel better about an upgrade, after rebooting a couple of times and seeing that all is well. So, I usually reboot a few minutes after upgrading.

Bo

 

HI Bo. BSOD happened during OS startup and not while using SBIE. It happened right after I installed 5.06 on Windows 7 x64 and rebooted system. Same as you I like to reboot system after install. Might have been a conflict with some other driver or something similar.
Since I can't reproduce it I can't report it on their forum. I reconfigured system failure options to get minidump and disabled automatic restart if it happens again. I need at least one dump to report it on their forum.

 

Terminate All Programs question:
I have Firefox set as Leader. Close Firefox + Auto delete is slower than Terminate All + Auto delete.
How/Why is Terminate All + Auto delete faster than Close + Auto delete.
1) Should I allow Firefox to close n' release n' auto delete a bit slower.
2) May I use Terminate All + Auto delete without issue/concern.
3) What is the purposed use for Terminate All Programs.
TIA v5.06

 

When you terminate FF, SBIE kills it and deletes content. That's quicker than FF trying to close usual way. Since SBIE deletes all changes, terminating FF shouldn't affect FF or system stability. Personally though I would let it close normal way.

 

Sorry Bo if I return again on the subject, but your last remarks bother me enough! ..... are you sure about?
This because, in addition to the default virtual area (that I dedicate to browser for internet surfing) I created other three areas where I installed a few programs to be tested...... and i fear that any malware into default area can spread also to other areas

 

For number 2, sure you can. But if you have programs running in more than one sandbox, all programs in all sandboxes get terminated when you click Terminate all programs. I prefer deleting sandboxes normally. I set them to delete on closing and most of the time most sandboxes close fast enough. At the same time, I tell you this, if I had a particular program that the sandbox took extra time deleting automatically or had a problem with a sandbox not terminating fast usually, I would get used to deleting that sandbox manually and forget about it.

On number 3. If you read the explanation for that setting it doesn't really tell a specific purpose but I can tell you what I used it for. My computers don't freeze often but in the rare occasions that that happens, I prefer clicking terminate all programs than trying to close the sandboxed program by clicking the X. I think it works faster getting out of the freeze that way than clicking the X.

I dont have too many programs in W7, I cant remember anything freezing in that computers. But sometimes when I fast forward a video using the old version of KMPlayer that I use in XP, the player freezes and clicking terminate all programs works great for me in that case. I taken the Terminate all programs setting a little further and created a shortcut that I place at my taskbar, if the player freezes, I click it, programs terminate and the freeze goes away. Works great. You can create a shortcut for yourself with this path.

"C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\Start.exe" /terminate_all

Bo